Outrage over sovereignty?

OK, Iran struck back, and pretty much failed to accomplish anything other than a propaganda edge for its leaders when it fired ballistic missiles from IRAN into another "SOVEREIGN" country, viz: Iraq, at 2 bases that housed U.S. service members. When this administration took out Soleimani, there was much ado about "sovereignty", by many American politicians and many Iraqi politicians, despite the fact the deceased was NOT in HIS country, but in Iraq. I believe too, the UN told him to stay out, did they not? Is that outrage about a nation's sovereignty", in this case, Iraq's being violated by Iranian missiles landing on Iraqi territory worthy of outrage too? OR is it just American, mostly, left, capitulation crying out when it suits their cause?

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RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M

When the US assassinated Solemeini at Baghdad airport they also murdered Iraqis at the same time ...... and [b]no[/b] warning was given.

Big fucking difference.

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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@soar2newhighs In practical terms, they’re American bases.

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@QuixoticSoul There are other American bases in the region, not shared, but Iran did not target them.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@soar2newhighs Reapers fly from Al-Asad.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

I feel like you’re missing a whooooole lot of context and nuance here.

But yes, Iraq did issue a statement about protesting any violations of its sovereignty and attacks on its territory yadda yadda - but as no Iraqis were hurt, and Iraq is functionally almost an Iranian client state at this point, the whole thing was muted and circumspect.

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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@sunsporter1649 Are you trying to have a conversation with yourself or something? This level of left field goes waaaaaay beyond strawmen.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@QuixoticSoul Can't find one, eh?

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@sunsporter1649 Did you forget your meds today?

CountScrofula · 41-45, M

Both are bad. But I'm going to assume you're in the US, so clearly you should be holding your own country to a higher standard. I don't see what's hard about that.

BlueVeins · 22-25

The Iraqi government is pissed about the missile strike not only because it was on their territory, but also because it killed Iraqi officials in a civilian airport. The Iranian strike did was on Iraqi soil, but it struck a [i]military[/i] target and didn't kill any Iraqis (albeit by happenstance). So really, it's Iraq's job to decide whether or not it was okay with the Iranian missile strike -- it could go either way.

Sovereignty is a nation's control of its territory and assets, so a foreign action's status as a violation of sovereignty depends entirely on how the nation views it. They may very well decide to cut ties with Iran, or they decide the attack was warranted. Who knows.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@BlueVeins Not happenstance - quote deliberate targeting. You can see by the choice of buildings that they decided to hit.

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Human1000 · M

You would need to understand the history of sovereignty in the Middle East and the difference between Shia and Sunni before you could understand the answer to your question.

SirenCalledLuce · F

Okay. Breath.

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