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The electorate was biased against Corbyn

There are cries of agony around the UK this weekend.

It's appalling and indeed revolting that Jeremy Corbyn has fallen victim to the outrageous voting bias of the British public, last Thursday.

It's only appropriate that there should be a debate now about how to nationalise the electorate to ensure they work for the many in the JC4PM WhatsApp group - and not for the few who voted Conservative.

What the Mainstream Electorate fail to understand, (being too stupid to make rational decisions of their own), is that the policies in the Labour manifesto were all extremely popular, from the free Caesar salads and puppies every Easter, to compensation for wasp stings.

Peering through his special spectacles which allow him to turn a blind eye to antisemitism (but not to someone voting Lib Dem), Corbyn boasted, having managed to reduce the Labour vote even in his own constituency, that Labour "put forward a manifesto of hope.”

He is oblivious to the implication that if the policies were so good there must have been something (or someone) else that was so nauseously off-putting that people decided not to vote Labour.

As Corbyn correctly noted in the notresignation speech, the media intrusion into the lives of people who want to run the country is outrageous, when they ask highly personal questions like “what’s your favourite biscuit?”, “how did you not realise that mural was anti-Jewish?” and “why haven’t you resigned yet?”.

I'll admit I'm not a Labour voter (to date), but Magic Grandpa once seemed so nice. He was genuinely like Father Christmas, only with ill-fitting suits and carrier bags of photocopied leaflets and endearing queries like “would you like to see my holiday pics from Venezuela?”. But underneath it all he turned out to be short-tempered, intolerant, and nasty.

Like a particularly tedious episode of Scooby Doo, the electorate finally pulled off the preposterous rubber mask to reveal the baddie inside. (And he’d have got away with it, if it weren’t for those meddling voters).

Labour members should take note. A leader who has stronger views on manhole covers and marrows and the ludicrous Diane Abbott than the central question facing the country today, and who opted to sit in the middle of a polarised debate, probably isn't the sort of person you want to put forward as a prospective PM in the future.

Also it turns out that if you tell everyone (including me, when canvassed) to “piss off then and vote for the Tories” they probably will.

The Grumpy Grandpa used to snap at interviewers, “Can I finish?”

You are well and truly finished. Sod off and take the rest of your disastrous clique with you.

Faced with such an appalling alternative prospect for Prime Minister in the figure of the Rt. Hon. Mem. for Uxbridge and South Ruislip, there is no one whatsoever to blame for Labour's debacle but its fringe leadership.

Because it's certainly not, cries from some in SW and elsewhere to the contrary, the voters.
Oneofthestormboys · 100+, M Best Comment
What do you REALLY think of him though? 😂
That was actually an incredibly concise and amusing utterage DaySpider, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Ever thought about a career in journalism?
Btw, do you think that it’s an ironic tragedy that none of this will matter in a few years when the world can’t support human life anymore? It always seems strange to me that the one thing that’s going to affect every living person on the planet isn’t at (or very near) the top of the major party’s agendas? Kind of reflects how ostrich-like we’ve become as a species...

JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@DaySpider So what do you think of Jason Momoa & Would You Do Him
Quizzical · 46-50, M
Harsh!

Pretty accurate though... I think Labour would have had a far greater chance if Corbyn had stepped down a long time ago.

Sitting on the fence regarding Brexit was a disastrous move. They obviously thought scaremongering about the future of the NHS would counteract the Brexit issue.

It didn't.

I only hope to god that Dianne Abbott isn't thinking about running for Labour leader (Diane Abbott thinking! Lol)... As I'd actually like to be able to consider them a viable voting option again at some point.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@Quizzical Haha no I didn't see the others. The thought of her in charge of anything makes me most afraid..
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@DaySpider 😂

You certainly have a way with words.

Scathing! 😁
Deepfilling · 46-50, M
@DaySpider Well written
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
I don't fully get your post? There are cries of agony... are you talking about the 4 first points? Because it looks like you first are in favor of him, and then go against him.

It's only appropriate that there should be a debate now about how to nationalise the electorate to ensure they work for the many in the JC4PM WhatsApp group - and not for the few who voted Conservative.

This is just the: "Let's all get angry at the rules!". You know, the rules that work for every party the same way at the beginning of the elections, but seem super unjust when the team you favour above the other team fails to get into power. It's what certain amount of democrats did when Trump won the electoral college and not the popular vote. It's just bad sportmanship.

But I agree that anny country can talk about how they vote, how the voting system works, how representatives work. But you can perfectly do that, without pointing to a recent political outcome that isn't in your favour. This argument ussually flairs up after someone looses according to the rules.

What the Mainstream Electorate fail to understand, (being too stupid to make rational decisions of their own)

People that don't vote like me, are all stupid and irrational and can't vote for themselves. Hot take right there, totally alienates the other team. Just confirms biasses that already excist that the other team doesn't like how you think. Conversation and discussion? Not possible, because they are to stupid and irrational annyway. Same thing Trump is doing on a continuous bases. And same thing Hillary did when she used the word "deplorapable". Just nasty tactics... I don't know who said this, but I hope someone throws a milkshake at them.
DaySpider · 26-30, F
@Kwek00 It's sarcasm.

There is a contingent of Labour supporters hanging their heads in despair that their usual voters went for someone else, and of them, a large number who DO think the electorate are too stupid to know how to vote in their own interests. I'm not remotely in favour of him, or thinking like that. And I'm particularly angry at Labour (and other parties) now complaining about the electoral rules, for precisely the reason you say: they all knew the rules beforehand and should plan their campaign accordingly. They didn't.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@DaySpider When it comes to the rules... most parties don't really have a tactic when it comes to this. In a first-past-the-post system tough... it's pretty important to position yourself in the center. From what I heared as criticism of the labour party and it's strategies (from annalysists, opposition and even labour party members) they positioned themselves more to the left... and that's just not a smart thing to do.

Positioning yourself in the center during elections, is not the same as being a center-party. It just means that you attract voters that haven't decided yet, which are ussually people that are fairly moderate. If they decided before hand who they would choose for, you'll have some really hard time changing their minds. And the people that ussually vote for you, are already in the bag. You need to catch those that are doubting, and you need to attract them on the points you find important.

A bit like the conservatives that promised:

I guarantee:

1. Extra funding for the NHS, with 50,000 more nurses and 50 million more GP surgery appointments a year.

2. 20,000 more police and tougher sentencing for criminals.

3. An Australian-style points-based system to control immigration.

4. Millions more invested every week in science, schools, apprenticeships and infrastructure while controlling debt.

5. Reaching Net Zero by 2050 with investment in clean energy solutions and green infrastructure to reduce carbon emissions and pollution.

6. We will not raise the rate of income tax, VAT or National Insurance.

source: https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Which has some attraction to those that feel social security is important. Altough the conservative party is in favor of austerity. They position themselves in such a way where they can attract those that are in doubt... but their execution? well we'll see... but I think a lot of people are going to feel left out after 5 years. Because I don't get how you can promise social programs (1, 2, 4) and also promise not to higher taxes (6). While being against taxes and in favor of austerity (which is the direct opposite of social programs) is what the conservative party has been all about since the late 70s. But during the election, they suddenly wanted to attract labour party voters. And for as far as I followed the campaign, they are going to subsidise the social programs (1,2,4) with the economic surpluss that Brexit will generate. Which according to every economist I ever heared talking about brexit (from left to right) is a total myth.

But people will get what they voted:

- Things will get done (mainly, Brexit will happen)
- Immigration will get tougher (which is linked to brexit in a weird way)
- Taxes won't go up!
- And conservative values will be embedded in the constitution

... and all the rest? well, maybe? After 5 years, that will be pushed under the rug mostly because well, you can't do everything that you promised in just 5 years. But things will get done.
has fallen victim to the outrageous voting bias of the British public, last Thursday.

Lolz.. seems to be happening a lot lately
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revenant · F
when the mask has been removed...
OggggO · 36-40, M
Meanwhile, over in reality:
https://www.fairvote.ca/2019/12/13/ukelection/
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DaySpider · 26-30, F
@OggggO I can make anything look bad when taken out of context. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. It doesn't convince me of anything.

Had Labour won (which given its insane manifesto and hapless leader, was always going to be a long shot for anyone not part of the cult), the Tories would be complaining of BBC bias.

I'm a Lib Dem. We're *always* on the receiving end of it. But we know the BBC gives it out in all directions. The fact everyone complains is evidence enough it's fairly neutral. Kuenssberg is merely in love with herself...
OggggO · 36-40, M
@DaySpider
I can make anything look bad when taken out of context.

Cool. But only bad things look bad when in context, such as those examples.
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Oneofthestormboys · 100+, M
I bet the ‘powers that be’ in Brussels are thinking that they might have to negotiate properly now. @SW-User
Did anyone tell you the election is over. Move on, let us not become like Americans spewing hate to all parties.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Quizzical When I use the word: "citizen", "voters" and just (general) intollerance towards those you disagree with... that's pretty embracing of the entire poppulation Q.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@Kwek00 I can't argue with that, lol
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Quizzical But you tried




😜🦆
funfan · 51-55, M
Boxing Day 2019: It's now exactly 2 weeks post-election. What are the future plans for Jo, do you think? At only 40, she remains young enough to have a long future ahead of her, political or otherwise.
DaySpider · 26-30, F
@funfan hopefully not in politics. She's showed an appalling lack of judgement tbh. But I'm not sure she's ever done anything else. So the country will remain lumbered in some capacity...
Ah, Corbyn, who in 2015 was trying to promote the segregation of women on Britain's rail system and then recanted in 2017 due to pressure, not only from his own party but the other parties, too.
Sueisright · 31-35, F
Love your post
Ian123 · 61-69, M
You are entitled to your opinion, if you want to vote for Jeremy Corbyn that’s perfectly ok but let other people have their opinion
DaySpider · 26-30, F
@Ian123 I certainly don't and didn't. Do read !
Ian123 · 61-69, M
@DaySpider Yes I may have misunderstood. Apologies 🤗
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
You are smart politucs student posting strawnan overload from Twitter and neespaper articles. Meh

 
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