Unless there is an endgame that I can't see, Trump has finally done something I think is completely boneheaded and dishonorable.

I can't imagine what Trump is thinking leaving our allies to be devoured by the Turks, and pretty much undoing all the progress we have made against ISIS. Am I missing something? Is he trying to punish Europe? Do you think he has a plan, or has he actually lost his mind?
On the surface, this looks horrible to me.

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goliathtree · 56-60, M

The Turks and the Kurds have been enemies and at what might as well be called war for something in the neighborhood of 400 years. While I sympathize with the Kurds, whether we are there or not, will not change this rivalry. So, if we extract ourselves from a situation that will never end and only continue to cost American lives and resources and we expose Turkey for what they really are (remember, they are a member of NATO in good standing and supposedly our ally - NOT!) I fail to see how this is a bad decision.

Perhaps I am missing something.

What I find even more perplexing is the flip flopping from "Don't you dare go to war!" to "Don't you dare extract yourself from war!" attitudes....

puck61

@goliathtree I am seeing it a bit clearer now, thanks to input from people like you, 4MAndYou, Mugin, budwick, and others. I had a knee jerk because they have prisons filled with ISIS scum, and they gave their lives helping us round up ISIS. At first glance this seemed like a complete betrayal, and to some extent it still does, but Trump is right about these wars going on forever. When you consider how that religion came about, you can see why it has been a bloody mess ever since.

goliathtree · 56-60, M

@puck61 I don't think anyone wins here except the young men and women in our armed forces who won't die in Syria.

puck61

@goliathtree also a good point.