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What's so bad about using the Office of The President to extort a foreign country to interfere in an election for your own benefit ?

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Not that much, if you believe that what's best for the President is what's best for the country, and everything else is secondary, I guess.
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@MistyCee ummm isnt that backwards
@MistyCee I like your sarcastic turn of mind.
@SW-User Well, I [u]don't [/u] believe that Trump is what's best for the country, and think that other things are important. But I'm trying to see the other side in a positive way.
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@MistyCee i think it is at the point where dems need to go for impeachment, i didnt feel that way until today
@SW-User Impeachment is good but Pence is a horrorshow but we the people are running out of ideas and we need JUSTICE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Stilltryinghard omg pence yeah i know but it is just on going and the senate will never convict even if he does shoot someone on 5th ave but still have to do it now i think or what rule of law at all
@SW-User well we could all focus on a fatal potential "fall" for the unhealthy potus

We could also find some powerful SHAMAN from Tibet and pay him handsomely to do his thing.. for the VP too....
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Stilltryinghard @SW-User Pence is in upto his ears in this.
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@RodionRomanovitch i wold not be surprised at all
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SW-User https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/pence-knew-about-and-actually-participated-in-trumps-apparent-ukraine-extortion-plot-report/
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@SW-User I hear you. I'm still bothered by the fact that Trump seems to want it, but continuing to let him do whatever the hell he wants with no checks or transparency seems to be even riskier.

If Democrats continue to just make noise, issue subpoenas and Trump just gets bolder and bolder about ignoring them, we'll end up at the mercy of an electorate that will have seen only ineffectual obstruction by Democrats and a "winning" and seemingly invincible demagogue.

There are other ways they could step it up, but honestly, I'm not that sanguine about them, nor am I really that sanguine about how this bunch of bozos will deal with the impeachment process based on how they handled Lewandowski.
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@MistyCee i think the time is now
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@MistyCee I'm still amazed that some people seem to think that exposing Trump's criminality in a formal setting is somehow going to help him get re-elected.

Re: Lewandowski - get the same lawyer who roasted him do the same to Trump. This is a job for pros.
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@RodionRomanovitch it has just gotten to be an overwhelming amount, and i think partially it was because of the realization he will not get convicted in the senate
@SW-User Maybe, but they need to have a plan, and a focus.

The Republicans will surely make a circus out of it, and their base laps up idiocy, whatabouts, and bullshit conspiracy stuff so easily that they really need to be on their toes and be methodical rather than just having representatives mugging for the cameras.

If it comes off like a joke, Trump wins and makes it easier for the Senate to dismiss it out of hand.
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@MistyCee totally a plan and organized and AOC needs to think and stop saying dems are worse then trump, and they need to be focused exactly
@RodionRomanovitch [quote]
Re: Lewandowski - get the same lawyer who roasted him do the same to Trump. This is a job for pros.
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That's what I'm thinking, but team Trump is not going to cooperate, witnesses will be intimidated and bribed, and who's going to chair the proceedings?

Hopefully, they'll think this through so it won't just turn into a shouting match.
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@MistyCee i sure hope so and they need to just focus on trump what he has done and nothing else in impeachment hearings
@SW-User AOC needs to be brought into the tent and given something to do that's within her skill set, which is tricky.
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@MistyCee I agree, she has good points and stupid points about her
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SW-User LOL, good points?
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@sunsporter1649 yeah her ideas about green energy and green tech are good ideas that need a lot of fleshing out, but green is the way of the future
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SW-User And I have a bridge I want to sell you
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@sunsporter1649 i hope it is a green bridge
doing things to limit pollution and burning up fossil fuels is a good idea.