St. Louis Park, Minnesota, city council has decided to remove the pledge of allegiance from their meetings. Your thoughts? More info below:

The city council member, Anne Mavity, who proposed the idea says that not everyone who has business with the city council is a citizen. She says, “They certainly don’t need to come into city council chambers and pledge their allegiance to our country in order to tell us what their input is about a sidewalk in front of their home.”

But aren't the city council members part of government? Aren't they part of our country? Don't the city council members owe allegiance to their flag and their country?

Do we have to alter our allegiance to our own country because of foreigners who might live here?

https://therealside.com/2019/07/minnesota-city-council-says-no-more-pledge-of-allegiance/

What are your thoughts?

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NorthernBear · 51-55, M

Some people who were born here don't say the pledge. I literally never thought until I read what you wrote about non-citizens not wanting to say it. There are practical reasons not to say it whether you're a citizen or not.

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUKffuSO4Mo]

4meAndyou · F

@NorthernBear This guy might as well have a mouth full of poo. I want to take a shower.

I understand the thinking of atheists who don't like to admit that God exists, and it may be true that the pledge was altered to include God, but IMO that's not a bad thing. And this idiot is SCARED by pledging "unthinking" allegiance to the country where he lives? Would this clown fight for us? If the draft is re-instated, will he run to live in Canada? Because that is what he would have to do.

I will always support the right to dissent. I will always support free speech, but I won't and can't support people who want to tear this country down. People are RUNNING toward us, begging to live here, because their stupid ideas have turned their own countries to sh!t, and OUR country is still worth living for.

NativeOregonian · 51-55

@NorthernBear Exactly

4meAndyou · F

@NativeOregonian I hearted your agreement because I like you personally, but that guy in the video is such an idiot, I wish he would find a nice little communist country where he can be happy.

AND the idiot in the video wants to remove [b]MY[/b] right to say the pledge, because he is such a sensitive little flower he can't deal with hearing it, when in fact he has the freedom, as you pointed out, NOT to recite the pledge himself.

That's not what we are all about as a country.

NativeOregonian · 51-55

@4meAndyou No, that is not what he is saying, what he is actually saying is we have the right not to say it if we wish not to, he is not wanting to take away your right to.

4meAndyou · F

@NativeOregonian The city council of the city of St Louis Park has banned it from their meetings. And the clown in the video wants to tell you how stupid you are if you want to say it.

NativeOregonian · 51-55

@4meAndyou Did they ban you from saying it in your own home, or out in public?

4meAndyou · F

@NativeOregonian They have removed that option if I wanted to attend their meetings.

NativeOregonian · 51-55

@4meAndyou That is on you, not them.

4meAndyou · F

@NativeOregonian I am disappointed in your obtuse reaction.

NativeOregonian · 51-55

@4meAndyou I really do not care what you think, I will always side on the Constitution.

4meAndyou · F

@NativeOregonian I will side with the Constitution also, but there is a difference between the rights of private citizens and the ability of a government agency to ban things that are supposed to be honored.