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The West is responsible for a lot of the worlds ills?

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redredred · M
Yeah, like antibiotics, the green revolution, air travel, cars, democracy, the end of slavery, universal suffrage, pasteuization, the industrial revolution, The Enlightenment and lots more.

And dont forget Guinness.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@redredred And my favorite beer
@redredred nice revisionist history.
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It's 100% accurate but since it conflicts with a leftist attack on the west, you need to disparage it.

The good news is, no one cares
@redredred Actually it fits a right wing utopian rewrite but right wingers love myth over reality.

And like nearly every conservative I have met you think everything is a left wing conspiracy which is amusing.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Yeah, like those right-wing utopians buried at Normandy
@sunsporter1649 Another random and off topic meme like post.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You mean The West was there on another wave of conquest over the poor, peaceful, citizens of the East!
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I dont credit you with the ability to create a conspiracy but I do believe you all follow an ant-like hive mentality of anti-western thought.
@redredred Again with the right wing tin foil hat brigade.
@sunsporter1649 I am thinking you believe saving Ryan's private won the war single handedly with GI joe.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
It seems to me just yesterday the left was claiming the hordes from the East overwhelmed the rightful citizens of the West, chased the rightful citizens of the West off their lands and into concentration camps. Today its the West causing all the mayhem in the East. Perhaps we should let the citizens of Atlantis arbitrate the dispute
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Your lame attempt to disparage me will not change the facts apparent even to a blind man; the left hates the west and worships the third world hell holes.

As I said, your side hasn't the insight to formulate a working conspiracy, Cloward-Pivin is just an inspiration to the short-attention span snowflakes who bitch about plastic straws and imaginary racism.
@redredred Again another right wing conspiracy theory. I am astonished you haven't dropped the cultural Marxism cliche yet.


No. The left just doesn't operate from delusional paranoia. And comments like imaginary racism tells me just how out oc touch with reality you are.
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow And youve done an excellent job displaying your deep, incurable ignorance.
@sunsporter1649 Perhaps we should wait till your lapse from reality passes so you can present an argument based in reality and not what this is.
@redredred The fact I don't share your paranoid delusions has nothing to do with ignorance and everything to do with operating within reality.
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow The fact that you cant see the obvious superiority of quality of life in the west vs the third world is adequate evidence of your ignorance. A superiority brought to the world by the west, btw.
@redredred Why not just start quoting Kipling. The ignorance and arrogance of that statement is astonishing. Then again in right wing circles it works because their audience is just as if not more clueless about the subject matter.
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow And yet you've yet to point out a single factual error in what I've written. is that what you call ignorance, being factually correct?
@redredred Sorry I didn't have time to teach remedial high school history. Stuff you should know.
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Stuff you still cant point out.
@redredred Lets take two examples. The green revolution. China is the driving force behind green tech development and no western nations come close. 2. Universal sufferage? The USSR had universal sufferage years before any western capitalist nations and gave far more rights to women and more options.

Or that before the British invasion and colonization India's textile industry was far superior to anything in the west. In fact that was part of why it was done. Destroy your competitors and reduce them to cheap labor for your own industry. In fact all that " superiority" you talk about was at the expense of others not because of some inherent superiority of western culture and "civilization ".
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow My turn to educate you. Norman Borlaug created the green revolution. It has nothing to do with environmental science, rather it was the critical first step in the development of high yield, high protein rice so that India and China could avoid starvation. Literally billions of humans are alive and healthy today because of Norman Borlaug.

I dont have a globe in front if me but, from what I remenber, The Soviet union is not in Asia.

Last, I adked you to point out a factual error I made. Pleae point out where I commented on textile production. If you want to limit yourself to points I actually made we might have a basis for discussion. If you need to fall back on the old leftist trope of changing the subject, Im not interested in playing.

Do your homework next time.
It might have been more useful for you to actually reference this person instead of an over used buzzword like green revolution.


And the guy who would flunk grade 6 geography wants to lecture me on how the world works. Nevermind the USSR Eastern Russia is in Asia and it is even smaller than the old USSR. Furthermore it has not been considered part of the West since the Romanov dynasty.

The factual errors are everywhere since you use broad generalizations. The biggest being that the state of the third world is in any way a natural condition. India is not a pooor country it was plundered.
redredred · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow For the last three hundred years, the two decision making cities of Russia and/or the Soviet Union, St Petersburg and Moscow are in the western, European sections of the respective countries. And the Green Revolution is the correct, historically accurate term for what I referenced, Its not my fault you got a poor education.

Youve yet to catch me in a factual error. You wont.