Biden or Sanders. Which one would make the better President ?

@SheikYerbouti He does portray that well.

@SheikYerbouti Yeah, it says he's not willing to implement the policies that American voters actually want. He wants to keep supporting Saudi Arabia and Israel, keep us in the nine different wars we're in right now, keep doing civil asset forfeiture, keep corporate welfare rolling along, keep allowing private health insurance companies to price gouge Americans, keep allowing defense contractors to contribute billions of dollars to campaigns in order to receive kickbacks when those candidates get elected, keep pushing anti-BDS laws, keep outsourcing jobs...

But we've had this conversation before, and I know you LIKE all those things.

@BlueMetalChick I'm all for realistically implementing programs and not utopian ones that will never get a chance.

@SheikYerbouti So not arming Muslim terrorists is "utopian" and will never get a chance? And not giving hundreds of billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia is "utopian" and will never get a chance? And funding infrastructure and pulling out of the nine wars we're in and investing in renewable energy and scrapping pledge laws and reversing civil asset forfeiture and legalizing marijuana and outlawing stock buybacks and prohibiting corporate welfare are all things you think can't ever happen?

Reminds me of Hippo when he said "I just got back from the centrist rally. We all held hands and sang "Better things aren't possible."

@BlueMetalChick I'll go with someone who is honest, though everyone knows they won't keep all plans once in office, over the one who claims to have all the answers to our troubles.

@SheikYerbouti So you consider someone who lies about having supported the Iraq War and Patriot Act to be honest. You're telling me someone can lie through their teeth to you, get caught, and you consider them "honest."

Not to mention contradicting himself every time he opens his mouth. How many times has Biden said now that he's "the most progressive and most liberal candidate" but in the next breath he says he's a better option than Sanders or Gabbard or Warren because he's "more moderate and centrist?" Which is it? He can't be both.

@BlueMetalChick Sanders is well invested in Wall Street, though he doesn't like that getting out. Ruins his Socialist cred. Gabbard is a screwball Hare Krishna who will be one of the first to drop out. Warren is somewhat decent on financial matters. Biden is a popular ex VP, has foreign policy experience everyone else lacks. It's all about electability. You know Sanders isn't going to keep all his promises, right? Not even the Democrats go for all his rhetoric.

@BlueMetalChick Sorry to interrupt, but who’s Hippo?

@SheikYerbouti Sanders was the one who told everyone he was invested in Wall Street. He did it to kneecap One America News doing hit pieces on him for having made over $500,000 in one year. Gabbard wants to pull out of all the foreign wars and that's why her own party hates her. Biden is running a Hillary Clinton strategy. Did you see his launch ad? The entire thing was "Nazis are bad, vote for me." You think that's electable? Look at what happened in 2016. Trump won because his opponent's entire platform was "We want to keep things relatively the same". Trump was a loud bombastic idiot, but he included a fair dose of populism in his rhetoric. It was a lie, obviously, and now as president he's the least populist president of my lifetime. But that's what got him elected. Biden is upfront about his elitism. Even if Sanders or Warren aren't going to keep their promises, wouldn't you rather take a chance with someone who says they're going to do something good as opposed to someone who openly admit that they're not going to?

@JP1119 Hippo is a political satire comic strip.

It sure does say something: the status quo will be maintained.@SheikYerbouti

@AnonymouslyYours ^this

@BlueMetalChick It makes Sanders something of a hypocrite. Gabbard is of the utopian school of "we can settle everything with a handshake and understanding " didn't work out so well for Neville Chamberlain (I'm not a war monger, but, I'm not naive enough to be a pacifist either). Trump mostly won, in my opinion, because he wasn't Hillary. After this president, is anyone going to take a chance with a non politician again? For good or bad, having experience matters a lot. That's what people are going to be looking at. I'm not 100% behind Biden at this point, but, he is the best most realistic choice.

@AnonymouslyYours The status quo usually is.

@SheikYerbouti You don't have to be a pacifist. I'm not a pacifist either. A pacifist is someone who does not want to fight even when threatened. We're fighting wars in nine countries right now. A grand total of zero of those countries attacked us. Zero of those countries even threatened us. You know who DID attack us? Saudi Arabia. And yet America sucks their dicks and hands them hundreds of billions in American tax money. YOUR money, and MY money, goes towards buying weapons for the Saudis so they can arm terrorist groups in Syria, and kill people in Yemen. 93,000 children, aged 5 and under, have starved to death in Yemen because of the US-Saudi Coalition's blockade.

@SheikYerbouti [quote]The status quo usually is.[/quote]
That's my point. Biden is a status quo defender. You shouldn't be ok with the status quo. Has it done good for you thus far? Has it done good for most of the country?

@BlueMetalChick Who among the Democrats has the guts to give the Saudis the middle finger?

@BlueMetalChick It's that way because the public has made it that way. Most people don't vote let alone get involved.

@SheikYerbouti It doesn’t always work out well, but it actually worked out really well for Neville Chamberlain. When Nazi Germany began annexing, the Allied Nations weren’t ready to fight a World War yet. Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement delayed the start of World War II and the Allies ended up winning.

@SheikYerbouti To be completely honest, only Gabbard would do it in full. Sanders, Warren, and possibly Yang would do it partially. All three have expressed a desire to at least stop support for the Yemeni genocide but continue to do business with the Saudis. And even that half-solution is miles and miles better than doing nothing at all.

Tulsi Gabbard is no pacifist and she has clearly stated this in publicly televised interviews such as the several she's given to CBS. Gabbard is not in support of regime change wars that are often the consequence of imperialist motive and the desire to pillage resources of less powerful nations. These conquests, more than the Russians, the Taliban or Boko Haram, are what endanger the lives of Americans. @SheikYerbouti

@JP1119 He also went back to Parliament and said Hitler gave his word not to invade. How was that a success?

@SheikYerbouti I know. And that's wrong. People should realize that, even as small as it is, voting is really the only thing we can do right now.

@SheikYerbouti I could make a disingenuous and hacky argument against that Chamberlain comment but I won't because it would be slimy.

@AnonymouslyYours I'm not a supporter of hers, but, some are under the impression that she is.