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Link Banning? Liberals At Facebook Up the Ante on Suppression of Free Speech


THIS is why Corporations should not have the same rights as actual persons.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/05/02/bokhari-link-banning-is-facebooks-terrifying-new-censorship-tool/



Bokhari: Link-banning Is Facebook’s Terrifying New Censorship Tool

The banning of multiple political commentators from Facebook and Instagram, including conservatives Paul Joseph Watson and Laura Loomer, is an outrage against the ideals of an open Internet on its own. But beyond the bans on individuals, Facebook has deployed an even more terrifying tool of censorship — link-banning.
The mainstream media were, of course, tipped off about the bans in advance, and the Atlantic’s report contains the following eye-opening detail. Not only has Alex Jones’ personal account now been banned from Facebook, in addition to PrisonPlanet editor-in-chief and YouTube star Paul Joseph Watson, but all links to Infowars sites are now banned across the platform. Share Infowars too often, and you’ll be banned too.[...]
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M Best Comment
Oh god. I got off FB and twitter a couple years ago now.
I don't know why people still use it tbh.
Northwest · M
@Ryannnnnn
I don't know why you'd wanna be part of a database that random people and employers can access, have your details sold to third parties, have your history tracked, eat from a feedbag of fake news, have 300 virtual friends that you don't interact with which consumes you when you're out with real life friends.
Perhaps some can be said for here, but it's nothing like that place.

It's filling your mind with trash, wasting time, and being complicit in everything wrong with those practices.

Don't look now, but you are on SW.

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Theseus · 46-50, M
@Northwest Don't look now, but your asinine evasions are intellectually vacuous as ever. SW doesn't track your every move. SW doesn't require real names/identies and thus doesn't sell data about you to advertizers (or give it away to government). SW doesn't build vast databases on your online activities in order to generate and monetize personality profiles.

Your comparison of SW to Fedbook, much like your polemical style, is for shit.
Northwest · M
@Theseus
asinine evasions are intellectually vacuous as ever

Here's a hint: slapping a few words together, that sound interesting, does not necessarily make a coherent sentence. Yours certainly does not.

SW doesn't require real names/identies and thus doesn't sell data about you to advertizers

That means absolutely nothing. But, it shows that you have no clue how social network collect and use data.

I don't need to know who you are, to target you. It's called data science. Look it up. And, as a matter of fact, giving access to you, through advertising, is one of the ways they make money.

or give it away to government

No organization provides data to the government voluntarily, A bit of advice for you though, the government can force an organization to provide any data it wants, via a court order. That's a fact of life.

SW doesn't build vast databases on your online activities

Shit son, that's EXACTLY what they do. See the terms and conditions. They tell you there, that anything you put on the site, is theirs to use, for as long as it remains IN THEIR DATABASE.

in order to generate and monetize personality profiles.

Wake up pal, and smell the advertising. Perhaps you pay, and don't see ads, but those who don't pay, see ads. Here's how it works: SW has a contract, or contracts, with Google and others. Through Application Program Interfaces (APIs), they pass the information in your profile, even if it's fake, and everything you post, to these companies advertising engines. They in turn, push ads on your pages.

The fact that you make these claims, tells me that you have NO clue.

Your comparison of SW to Fedbook, much like your polemical style, is for shit.

I'm curious, do you use a Thesaurus application, to make yourself sound interesting? I have some news for you, it's about as fake as you might imagine, when you take your head out of your ass.

As a matter of fact, and as I'm typing this, that very Facebook, is using the advertising interface, SW provides, to push ads on you. Wallow in your ignorance.

@AbbeyRhode oh the irony.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
LOL Breitbart???? That bastion of intellectual objectivity :P PS did I say I am an expert at sarcasm :P
curiosi · 61-69, F
Been going on for a while, that was part of the real collusion.
It's funny how free speech works in practical terms.

FB has been attenuating free speech from the onset. And nobody seems to care unless it is content they care about.

FB has been involved in all sorts of political censorship all over the world and in the US. In the US censorship of sexual images, violent images, breast feeding images. Censorship of certain highly specific foreign political content. Of certain religious content as offensive. Of specific domestic political and conspiratorial content. Of content related to specific violent crimes.

Nobody cares unless it's their precious.

Meanwhile people who really understand the 1A realize nothing about FB is at all protected speech.
JP1119 · 36-40, M
The First Amendment protects free speech, meaning the government can’t censor you. The government is not banning links on Facebook, Facebook is banning links on Facebook. Corporations have the right to control their image. They can ban links to certain political commentators if they think those links will discourage others from using Facebook. This is the wonderful free market at work!

I 100% agree that corporations shouldn’t have the same rights as people, but I don’t see what that has to do with this case.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@JP1119 Great post! And yes, under the current perversion of capitalism wherein government-created corporations are given the rights of personhood, Fedbook can indeed censor content as it wishes...but BECAUSE corporations are birthed by, given rights by and protected by government, they act as extensions or arms OF government. (That's never been more true than in big tech.) As you aptly noted, only government (and obviously, its arms, extensions or agencies) is prohibited from censoring content.

And this is why the two issues are interlinked. As private companies (proprietorships), their respective owners can censor whatever they want. Public corporations, however, operate under the aegis of Government and thus cannot censor. Public corporations are GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.

This issue is far, FAR bigger than anyone realizes. At its core is an underlying, yet wholly flawed assumption: that corporations are "persons" with rights guaranteed thereto by the Constitution.
Alex Jones is a right wing conspiracy theorist and whackadoo, banned.
Rachel Maddow is a leftwing conspiracy theorist and whackadoo.. not banned.

For the record, neither should be banned.
Let them have their echo chamber.. something new will come along.
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout its called 4chan, and 8 chan.
go have a look
also lets not forget

https://www.conservapedia.com/Logical_fallacy.

very illuminating
Not sure I follow.. if you don’t like these platforms don’t visit..
Has the world gone mad?@SatyrService
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout i was suggesting alternates for those that want a platform more in line with their views. there are many more if you like
I threw in the conservapedia link because we would all benefit from more attention to logic in our thought and language
Cierzo · M
State should have the power to break up those huge corporations. Corporate capitalism sucks.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@Cierzo Agreed, but "corporate capitalism" isn't capitalism at all. It's closer to Mussolinian corporatism or fascism.
But, on the upside, you can join groups that will help you find other like minded folks, I.e., Pizzagate believers.

It almost seems like Facebook took a page from EP.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/05/instagram-and-facebook-ban-far-right-extremists/588607/
Theseus · 46-50, M
@MistyCee FWIW, Pizzagate believers are morons. Fedbook users are morons. Twitter and Instagram users are a very special brand of moron!

Why anyone would VOLUNTEER to be tracked/spied on by everyone from government to Internet pervs and nutters of various stripe is completely beyond me!
@Theseus Well, I do it to keep an eye on my kids, but I'm not happy about doing it.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@MistyCee Even so, you and your kids understand that your keeping an eye on them is done in the context of love.

That love isn't replicated in/by Fedbook, et al.
Haven't used Facebook in 4 years or more. Too many losers there.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@PrivateHell It's a gravity well for losers. People who couldn't get laid to save their lives are on Fedbook.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Not free speech. Hate speech. There's no protection for that.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@Graylight This isn't the classic yelling fire in a crowded theater exception. This is a whole new genre of Constitutional law. As far as I (and you, apparently) know there is no precedent insofar as "hate speech" is concerned.

Now, for the purpose of this discussion, if you want to link "hate speech" to established precedent in re: the "fighting words" or "iminent harm" arguments (which in themselves are of dubious constitutionality), you'll have to cite specific cases/examples.

I do give you credit for researching the issue, though. That's ten times more than most do on this forum.
Theseus · 46-50, M
@easterniowegin IMO, this is an excellent point. Thus far no one has objectively defined what constitutes "hate speech." It's defined "on the fly" to suit the agenda of the definer.
easterniowegin · 51-55, M
@Theseus the framers left out an important part, huh: "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech" . . . . Unless you are saying something that a specific demographic doesn't agree with.
Lmao. I keep saying if someone is offended by something someone said, then the 1st A is working correctly

 
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