Has Trump Been A Good President?

@BlueVeins What a complete crock of feces. Trump has done more for women and minorities than any president in history. Where the hell do you people find the audacity to post such completely insane bullshit?
The Paris accord was / is a scam. God bless Trump for telling the charlatans to go feck themselves!

@BlueVeins I get the gist of what you you're trying to say but you've contracticted yourself on a couple of points. He is withrdrawing troops but not from Yemen. Why not? Because that's a Saudi iniated war and he loves the Saudis, why? Hmmmm I can guess and so can everyone else. He thinks with his abhorent bluster that he's convincing everyone. Guess what? He's wrong.
In the main I agree with your statement, you've stated a lot of valid points and it's good to see. Thank you for posting this.

@puck61 I would argue with you on that, but I'm sure that even if I showed you Trump demanding the straight-up murder of a bunch of black and latino people, you still would think he's a civil rights god. There's significant evidence that his company (under his orders) even participated in segregation. As for women, a man as brand-conscious as Donald Trump [i]certainly[/i] knows how the way he (as the President of the United States) talks about women effects their well-being in society.

@Zoranna Where are you saying I contradicted myself? There's certainly nothing contradictory about condemning his continued support for Yemeni oppression while supporting his withdrawal of troops from Syria, if that's what you meant.

@BlueVeins No, you've misunderstood or I probably didn't explain properly. I initially meant to explain what I meant about your comment "helped normalize some really uncool attitudes about women and minorities" but then I thought about it and realised you didn't mean how it actually came across. He hasn't "normalized it", he's made everyone more aware of it is what I think you meant. If I'm wrong please do correct me but I do sincerely agree with you. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

@Zoranna That's kind of a good question, and I'm glad you brought up the distinction. I didn't explain myself too well. Trump kind of has a habit of saying discriminatory things, but in a way that's too bumbling and too "cute" for most people to be terribly angry at. It's part of his brand, I guess. My issue with Trump's treatment of race and gender is that... by convincing us to see racism and sexism as a goofy, harmless thing, it shields perhaps more serious manifestations from the distaste it rightly deserves, thus allowing it to become somewhat normal.

I do agree with you on Yemen. Trump's arms deal with Yemen really spoke volumes about his character and motives, too. For an ostensibly straight billionaire who doesn't seem to like Muslims, he eats a lot of Saudi ass.

@BlueVeins Yes, there has been gentrification. That is just rich white people in general. Take a look at what happens to "the projects" and you will see why rich white people tend to shy away from certain groups of people. Take a look at the fact that a small [b][c=#BF0000]cross section [/c][/b]of 13 percent of this nation commits 51 percent of the violent crimes. It is pretty logical for whitey to be nervous. Look what is happening in South Africa, since the end of apartheid. People gonna have to face the facts. My childhood hero was George Washington Carver, and I got beat up for being a "nigger lover", but the truth is the truth, and there is no covering it up. Police Yosef!

@puck61 [quote]My childhood hero was George Washington Carver, and I got beat up for being a "nigger lover", but the truth is the truth, and there is no covering it up.[/quote] You're in a much better position here to criticize Donald Trump than I am. The Civil Rights Movement started in the '50s, so in the '70s, the ideas of racial justice -- while far from ubiquitous was very much in the public awareness.

Now [i]you[/i], as an open-minded person who has empathy for your fellow man, listened to those voices (on some level, at least) enough to realize that a black guy can be spectacular. You suffered for that ideal, whether you recognize it as a sacrifice or not. And while you were writing fan letters to your favorite nigger (as those racist fucks would have said), Trump was ordering his employees to close their doors to him.

Really, that should tell you that you, specifically, are a much better person than Donald Trump is. It's possible that Trump never had a personal vendetta against black people and just did it because he knew other people did, sure, but that doesn't have great implications for his character either.

Now, that's not to say that that proves Donald's eternal dickhood. As you said, gentrification happens, sure. But Trump never apologized for this policy, or payed reparations of any kind. And I think that in order for this kind of thing to really die, the change should at least be extremely pronounced and distinct. But Trump, while almost never outright racist, still seems to enjoy flirting with the line, and that makes me a lot less confident about his alleged redemption.

He's also openly mocked a disabled reporter before, so that's fun. Not the same type of prejudice, obviously, but I think it says something about his attitude.

@BlueVeins Nonsense. If you want to be a clown, go ahead, just spare me the nonsense.

@BlueVeins he did say he was withdrawing 2000 troops out of Syria but that changed within days of that announcement to they are keeping 1000 troops in syria

@gol979 It's 400 troops, or according to other sources, 200.

@BlueVeins well all the sources say they aren't pulling all troops out so while the sentiment was good it's just lies, unfortunately