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Do you ever call-out your own side?

I know that the idea of having a 'side' is sometimes nebulous but we all have people here who we agree with on political issues in many ways though not completely. We all have identity and confirmation bias and its hard sometimes to be objective. Well, it's impossible to be truly objective but I think its good to try.

On here I have not really noticed right-wing people do that. I saw a post yesterday which called the terrorist act in Christchurch an act of self-defence. It got a heart and no push-back from anyone. I also remember a post telling a black man to stay on the plantation and it got four hearts and again no Conservative pushback. I haven't seen any far-gone things from the left which passes without being challenged but maybe that is my own confirmation bias and perhaps there are examples.

We live in partisan times and the temptation is to be tribal but I think we lose a lot if we can't call out people whom we ideologically agree with for overstepping the mark. It's good to think for yourselves too, or you might end up in a political movement which supports violence against Muslims or open racism. I don't think most Conservatives do agree with these things but I think people should say so.
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I do, to the extent that I'm not even sure I have a real side.

The thing is, in the US, that kind of disloyalty will get you tweeted about long after your dead, e.g., John McCain.

I do tend to harp on the other side a bit more, but really, what inflames me most is people who can't or won't see shades of grey, acnkowledge their own biases and faults, or accept that winning battles at any cost can destroy both sides as well as losing a war.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@MistyCee
I'm not even sure I have a real side.

I kinda think you do.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick That's what happens when you go full-blown far right with evangelical overtones - you lose perspective 🤷‍♂️
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul I just actually have read many of her comments.
The fact that I'm conservative and Christian isn't a new discovery Columbo - it's prominently displayed in my profile.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick Why would I visit your profile?

And I didn’t say conservative and Christian.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Perhaps you should put me under investigation!
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick I don’t think you are a criminal. Why, should you be investigated? Aside from the IRS thing, that is.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Who the fuck knows why you guys put anyone under investigation?
@Budwick



I kinda think you do.

Just my perspective, I guess. From your perspective, I'm sure I'm "the other", and that's actually one of those things I have a pretty strong opinion on, so it all makes sense.

I used to find common ground with "conservatives" on things like individual liberty, a desire for limited government, etc.

I even still read National Review. But this new Fox/Breitbart/Trump stuff, I truly can't relate to very well.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick I don’t put anyone under investigation - but generally that’s done when someone is suspected of a crime.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul
but generally that’s done when someone is suspected of a crime.

Yeah, and with your guys evidence is optional.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick This is what I mean when I say that when you go full blown far right with evangelical overtones you lose perspective 🤷‍♂️

The depths of you victim complex are really something.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul
This is what I mean

Awe shit, that?
That's just factual detail!
That's not conservative or evangelical.
Although, from your perspective, ...
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick Nothing factual about it - that’s just conspiracy thinking, something that often happens to far right and left nuts.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul
that’s just conspiracy thinking,

No Sparky, it's reality.
That whole Muller witch hunt built on a phony dossier, used to wrongfully obtain FISA warrants by the Obama DOJ because there was no evidence.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick You really didn’t have to make my point for me quite so succinctly 😂👌
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Oh Baby Boy, you are not gonna take this well.
DonHobag · M
@QuixoticSoul 😂 That was beautiful
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@Budwick 'That whole Muller witch hunt built on a phony dossier, used to wrongfully obtain FISA warrants by the Obama DOJ because there was no evidence.' ..... that nonsense came straight out of Devin Nunes' ass after a Trump enema. Repeating this drivel really does you no favours.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick
@QuixoticSoul Oh Baby Boy, you are not gonna take this well.
Take what well? I’ve spent the last two years saying that there was likely no collusion 😂 - I expect to see some procedural violations, for the most part.

Because unlike you, I’m not prone to conspiracy thinking.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul
I’ve spent the last two years saying that there was likely no collusion

Nothing factual about it - that’s just conspiracy thinking, something that often happens to far right and left nuts.

Sounds like you are all too familiar with the conspiracy against the president. But you seem to have a problem calling a conspiracy - 'a conspiracy'. Not good for the agenda? Or, is it that your realize at some point, you and your pals are gonna have to suck it up when a slew of the Obama DOJ go down in flames.