Do u want socialism?

@Notmesam exactly! The ultimate outcome of socialism will eventually turn into communism. Don’t let anyone tell you differently! Last time I checked most of the wars we have been in were with commies 🤔

@Ryanoliver2011 We had exactly two wars with commies.

@QuixoticSoul 3 if you count the Cold War also China fought us in the Korean War. Nazi Germany was basically communist

@Ryanoliver2011 Whoa talk about grasping at straws....

Next thing he’ll say is that the British were commies.....

@Ryanoliver2011 Soviets also sent some advisors to the Korean War - but it’s still just two wars. Cold War is called that precisely because it wasn’t a war.

[quote]Nazi Germany was basically communist[/quote] 😂😂😂

Dude come on.

@Notmesam no they aren’t lol

@QuixoticSoul they were. Go look it up. I didn’t say that’s why we went to war with them bcz that wasn’t why but yes they were certainly commies. People were forced to do certain jobs such as make tanks for example and yes there are other examples.
Try knowing what you are talking about before bashing on other people

@QuixoticSoul I know it’s only two wars but as I said technically WW2 they were commies. Nazi Germany was certainly communist. Go look it up. My point is aside form WW2 when we fought alongside the Soviets we have never gotten along with commies. There must be a reason for that, I didn’t say I knew what that reason was lol

@Ryanoliver2011 Look up what? You seem to have no understanding of either communism, or Nazi germany. You go look it up. Just about any serious text will set you straight.

I recommend The Rise and Fall of Third Reich by Shirer.

@QuixoticSoul you’re cute how you think you know everything

@Ryanoliver2011 I don’t know everything. But I do know that Nazi germany was not a communist nation.

@QuixoticSoul what do you call it when people are told what they are going to do for work and such? To me that says communism

@QuixoticSoul hardcore government regulation over the workforce that is

@Ryanoliver2011 Maybe you should start by googling what communism actually is.

So guess who saud this;

"To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does to me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.

Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people. We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism"


@QuixoticSoul

@redredred Was it the same person who said "I absolutely insist on protecting private property... we must encourage private initiative" and aggressively re-privatized businesses nationalized by the Weimar republic during the great depression?

Yes but i believe my quote is after he got elected. Remember, Mussolini identified himself as a socialist as well. Tojo didn't though so take some comfort there.@QuixoticSoul

@redredred Same person who said "It is my firm conviction that property rights... must be unconditionally respected. Any tampering with them would eliminate one of the most vital incentives to human activity and would jeopardize future endeavor".

Sure sounds like campaign rhetoric@QuixoticSoul

@redredred '42

Once or twice he was known to lie. National Socialism is just possibly Socialism, you know with universal old age pension, universal employment, absolute gun control, free college education and healthcare.@QuixoticSoul

@redredred Aside from the rather bizarre assertion about absolute gun control, you described a welfare state, not a socialist one.

It's not that Hitler is especially lying when he makes contradictory statements on economy. That was his whole approach - "The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all".

So it's more productive to look at what Nazi Germany actually did, rather than what Hitler said - and the economy they created was not at all socialist in nature.