Can someone direct me to a Ben Shapiro video wherein he debates another professional debater and not college students in a Q&A ?

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Lindaisfun · 31-35, F

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Well i guess newscasts are one step above college students, although it's still far from an actual debate.
Not to mention that one of the clips IS him and a college student.