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Obama’s Legacy

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Northwest · M
Memes loaded with lies. How original.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest
That's not true?
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley And how's that change the fact the thread started with a bunch of lies? And, how is this meme of yours relevant? Did President Obama, or the Democrats do anything to contradict this statement?

Or, do you simply like to post irrelevant memes? Right.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest
1. ISIS grew under Obama.
2. Illegal immigration swelled under Obama.
3. The US became a poorer country under Obama.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley [quote]1. ISIS grew under Obama.[/quote]

ISIS BEGAN under GW Bush...


[quote]2. Illegal immigration swelled under Obama.[/quote]


Totally wrong.



[quote]3. The US became a poorer country under Obama.[/quote]

Totally wrong..the US economy started to rise (after the reccesion under GW Bush) in 2009...

Nil point. Still don't let facts get in the way of a diatribe eh?
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@HerKing First, median income fell by over $2500 during the Obama Administration.

This is a fact and it is not debatable.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley And now? Please do tell....
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@HerKing Since Trump was elected it has gone back up and now is the highest it's ever been.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley No it hasn't you muppet. Wages have been stagnant for years. The tax break however did make the top 1% even richer.
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley [quote]irst, median income fell by over $2500 during the Obama Administration.

[b]This is a fact and it is not debatable.[/b][/quote]

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U.S. real median household income reached $61,372 in 2017, an increase of $1,063 or 1.8% vs. 2016. It increased 3.1% in 2016 and 5.1% in 2015.
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley

[quote] ISIS grew under Obama[/quote]

You have yet to learn a simple lesson: you have no clue, when it comes to Middle East issues. ISIS did not "grew" under Obama. ISIS is a continuously shifting current, that erupted out of our invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Our Invasion of Iraq in 2003, was perpetrated by the same people Trump is bringing back into the WH now. Namely Bolton and the hard liner neocons that got us into the Iraq war.

The Iraq war, was a continuation of the first Gulf War, which is an extension of the Iraq/Iran war, where we not only encouraged, but also armed, and supplied intelligence to Iraq and egged Saddam on.

[quote]Illegal immigration swelled under Obama.[/quote]

Sadly, facts do not support your lies. But when did that stop you?

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

[quote]The US became a poorer country under Obama.[/quote]

See my response to you elsewhere in this thread. It's really sad when a grown ass man, can make this statement, given the economy Obama inherited, with unemployment nearing 10%, and handing it back, with unemployment approaching 4.5%, and a net growth of the S&P of nearly 75%, all the while saving the country from economic collapse.
@HoraceGreenley


hmmm maybe you should just stick to the memes. Facts don't appear to be your strong suit 😉👍
Northwest · M
@HerKing [quote]No it hasn't you muppet. Wages have been stagnant for years. The tax break however did make the top 1% even richer.[/quote]

He's referring to something Trump said during the campaign, and we know how Trump does not resort to hyperbole.

He said that median family income had dropped $2,000 since 2000. That would be true, but most of it happened during the Bush administration, and that figure covered data through 2014 only. By the time Obama left office, median income was the highest it had ever been up to that point. In fact, it grew 5.1% in 2015, and 3.1% in 2016, showing that the economic policies were working. Under Trump's first full year in office, it grew by 1.8%.

Trump's SW'ers are not known for their fact checking skills. This guy also ranks high.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest @Pikachu This chart shows it in 2017 dollars:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/200838/median-household-income-in-the-united-states/
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest Illegal immigration

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/11/27/undocumented-immigration-immigrants-donald-trump-border-security-pew-research-center-build-wall/2125005002/
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley [quote]This chart shows it in 2017 dollars:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/200838/median-household-income-in-the-united-states/[/quote]

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Oh man, my sides are splitting here. This is the EXACT set of numbers I posted. My God, you're an absolute idiot.
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley

[quote]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/11/27/undocumented-immigration-immigrants-donald-trump-border-security-pew-research-center-build-wall/2125005002/[/quote]

You're in rare idiotic form today. Usually, you can fudge a bit more, but today, you're posting the exact same things I am, and ignoring content.

Hey, dimwit, did you actually read this article? The numbers in it, come from the Pew report, I posted a link to. Specifically, here's the first sentence from the USA article you posted:

[quote][b][i][u]The estimated number of undocumented immigrants living in the USA reached a 12-year low in 2016, [/u][/i][/b][/quote]

But thank you for being a poster child for the Trump voters.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest Yeah. It's shows median income down from 2008 to 2014
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley [quote]Yeah. It's shows median income down from 2008 to 2014[/quote]

Yes, you dimwit. 2008, President Obama's first day in office, was Jan 20, 2009. Just as the economic collapse hit. Does that ring a bell? By the time he was out of office, the median household income, was at its highest. Rent a brain, it does not look you have one. I hope your degree was nowhere near econ, stat, or anything requiring a brain. If so, then request a refund. I hear your Alma Mater wants the money to pay for some well deserving people, like AOC.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest Illegal immigration population peaked in 2007. Then it fell due to the recession only to rise again. By 2015 the illegal population was close to the 2007 peak.

Check out DHS.gov
HerKing · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley Oh have you moved on now from economics? More illegal immigrants were deported under Obama than any other President.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@Northwest Those are the numbers. My point is, Obama made the recession worse. That point can be debated, but the fact is, those are the numbers.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@HerKing Those were "Turn-Arounds" at the border. Even the New York Times admitted that. Illegals were grabbed, then brought to the border and set free. That's not really a deportation.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley [quote]Obama made the recession worse. That point can be debated, but the fact is, those are the numbers.
[/quote]

That would explain why the economy rose year on year from just after he took office and was still rising when he left..
HerKing · 61-69, M
@HoraceGreenley You know don't you that the vast majority of illegal immigration is visa overstays...from Canada?
Northwest · M
@HoraceGreenley [quote]Those were "Turn-Arounds" at the border. Even the New York Times admitted that. Illegals were grabbed, then brought to the border and set free. That's not really a deportation.[/quote]

🤣

Stop it, please, you're killing me.