To the Republicans or conservatives (right wing): What is your opinion on Trump?

TBH: He took more action than some previous presidents. However, I do believe he is a bit radical. At this point, we know he loves to use exaggeration when he speaks, not that he is lying, that is just his character. But, in my opinion, although using his executive power to claim a national emergency IS CONSTITUTIONAL (read your constitution kids), could he have used that money to improve border security? Create more jobs for ICE, and make Mexico's new president to improve asylum conditions.

That is how I view it. I am Hispanic so immigration is a bit of a cliff hanger for me.
Opinions and facts are opened. I am very open to opinions.

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Insomniac100

Trump made me leave the Republican Party lol. When I listen to Reagan’s 84 rnc speech about immigration and how he carried himself, that’s what I envision what a republican should be. Trump is not a conservative but more an authoritative reactionary. I’m strongly against government intervention and over spending but he supports both. I prefer diplomacy and free trade but he doesn’t seeing as how state department funding gets slashed each year and how he tries to tariff any country he disagrees with. None of these are remotely republican/conservative ideals so I’m guessing the reason why he has support isn’t from an economic or ideological standpoint, but a socio-cultural and reactionary standpoint where he appeals to predominantly white males (his most popular demographic) by idealizing the “good old days” where things weren’t “pc” and minorities “knew their place.” This kind of nativism and emotional response to politics is largely ineffective towards policy making. Tbh, nothing has improved since he took office. A recession is probably gonna hit any moment due to the natural business cycle but I don’t see any pre emotive measure being taken and the country is extremely divided largely because of him. Student loans are out of control and social security is becoming less and less viable for future generations. The wall is a short term solution with large consequences within foreign policy and his approval ratings are extremely low. When I think about thoughtful conservatives/republicans, I think of Milton Friedman and William f Buckley...trump doesn’t come to mind

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MarmeeMarch · M

@Randy777 You make DT to be out to be a racist - is that how you see our president ?

MarmeeMarch · M

@Insomniac100 and whats wrong with abolishing PC - it gets more people afraid to utter a word for fear of offending someone -

Anon066 · 31-35, M

@Insomniac100 the first half of this comment is great, then it goes way downhill (that's pretty fucking offensive to minorities that support him), then the last sentence is awesome lol.

Espehope21 · 26-30, F

@Insomniac100 I can disagree with some of your statements. First of all, tariffs are made in European countries because countries like France and Britain (IDK about Germany anymore, I think that was a USSR deal) still owe us money. There will be no recession since unemployment rate went down to 3.7 percent. Keeping national debt high is an ooold Hamilton tactic to keep commerce and capitalism running. Student loans are short term inflation which allows to keep up with payments, now most states are offering flat tuition rates (yay). Social securty taxes and any taxes are dropping which is good because a lot of us had a good refund. Those who were dissapointed did not know how to calculate math on what you paid in taxes and the percent drop.

Insomniac100

thats an extremely idealistic point of view to claim that there will be no recession. Based on our kenysian economic system, a recession will definitely hit within the next year or so and low unemployment is a pre cursor to one as the fed will most likely hike up interest rates as the job market tightens. For student loans, Flat tuition rates for a few universities are the equivalent of a band aid on a bullet wound as overall interest rate continues to rise in the double digits and again, cutting taxes but refusing to cut government spending is yet another short term solution to a long term problem of deficit spending which is what conservatives are supposed to be against. @Espehope21

Insomniac100

@Anon066 how is stating the demographic and narrative that trump appeals to most offensive to minorities that support him?

Espehope21 · 26-30, F

@Insomniac100 It is also an extremely idealistic point of view saying a recession will occur next year. Government spending has been cut hence the cut on taxes. There were many changes made this new year.

Insomniac100

@MarmeeMarch people who are anti pc get the most offended ironically and encouraging ignorance while discouraging empathy to try and combat a few irrational narratives is counter productive.

MarmeeMarch · M

@Insomniac100 it absolutely has nothing to do with empathy - it says a lot about the state of men these days and how their - you know whats - are being removed by the attitudes of their female counterparts and mothers most likely a product of the 60s

You notice I said 'you know whats' ? thats PC

Anon066 · 31-35, M

@Insomniac100 look at the reasons he stated. And trump got more black votes than any other modern republican candidate.

Your point about anti-pc people getting most offended is also ridiculous. Sure there are plenty of morons that go around calling people snowflakes and freaking out over stupid shit, but there's also a large bipartisan pushback against the pc excesses too.

Insomniac100

@Espehope21 it’s more realistic and objective when comparing data from the past recessions of 08,01, and 92 where low unemployment’s were all precursors. Again, within our economic cycles, a recession is bound to occur every decade, give and take, as it corrects itself. Also, trumps tax cuts are largely depended on optimism that it would spur economic growth like after ww2, but none of that has happened due to a stagnant labor force, decreased overall birth rates in the United States, and decreased immigration. Tax cuts in context to the lafer curve(supply side) can only be successful with a severe decrease in deficit spending, yet federal spending has increased over 7.5% over trumps first few years in office. His tax cuts aren’t spurring economic growth. They’re just decreasing government revenue by billions with little to show for it.

Insomniac100

@Anon066 89% of black voters didn’t vote for him. I wouldn’t say that’s an achievement or signs of progress at all and says more about the failures of previous candidates than the supposed success of his.

And the point im trying to make is that being offended and reactionary isn’t mutually exclusive to one side and making a subjective issue into a large part of a political platform is lazy and shows a lack of understanding to more important tangible issues

Anon066 · 31-35, M

@Insomniac100 I agree with that. But I think you have to acknowledge that he's playing the game he entered. If the left wants to play identity politics you can't blame the right for responding with the same. It's hard not too be reactionary to that level of nonsense. I think the left fucked up dramatically letting the fringe gain such a loud voice.

Insomniac100

Sure. But again, that identity politics you hate so much about the left didn’t just come from nowhere. The problem with identity politics in general is that it it’s a swinging pendulum that gives reactionaries on both sides power which is ineffective. Just because trump Is playing the game, doesn’t make it right. @Anon066

Anon066 · 31-35, M

@Insomniac100 well it's always been a thing but the modern left has put it on a crazy steroid regimen. I don't think it's right, but it's certainly understandable.

I'm really hopeful this alternative media trend will continue and we'll get back to listening to intelligent people having productive discourse on long form platforms.

I can't wait for the day families sit around the tv and watch someone like rogan interview someone like a weinstein brother similar to donahue with people like friedman back in the day. This whole listening to the extremes on mainstream media needs to go.