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And All This Timne I Thought Plotting To Overthrow A Duly Elected President Was Treason.

Apparently it is just a goddamndemocrat party resume' enhancement, guaranteed to make one rich and a hero.
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Not sure about that second part, because it sounds
kind of like sedition, but it's not treason.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee I've heard trained lawyers use both terms.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 End result is the same....a seat on "Old Sparky".
@hippyjoe1955 Cooley Law School?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee I have no idea what schools they went to. They all claimed far more expertise than I have. Some were former federal prosecutors.
@sunsporter1649 Sorry for that snip against Cooley. Actually, im not sure you can get the death penalty for sedition, but it's a serious felony. Been a long time since I looked at it.
@hippyjoe1955 okie dokie. treason is a little different than anything else, because it's actually defined in the Constitution. Sedition was added a couple of years later by statute. This really doesnt fit Treason, unless you can prove basically collusion with an enemy of the US. Still serious stuff obviously.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Not a lawyer so I really don't know.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@MistyCee Unless you are a goddamndemocrat, then they give you a fat paycheck to write a book, and your own show on cnn.
@sunsporter1649 I don't think so, but sedition is not exactly a popular thing to try people for in a democracy.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Trying to overturn an election by using state apparatus certainly should be prosecuted and punished if found guilty. It does not belong in any democracy I have ever heard of. The people have made their choice. It is not up to the bureaucrats to decide if the people chose correctly or not.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@MistyCee LOL, take a look at the current and past cnn personalities, you would be amazed at how many worked for goddamndemocrats or were appointed by goddamndemocrats.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 Amazing, is it not, that those who actively participated were all unelected.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Yeah and well paid and connected to and by Hillary.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 And protected by Little Barry.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Oh yeah he was hoping Hillary would be his third and fourth terms.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 Funny how that worked out.
@sunsporter1649 I got that, although there's still a few Republicans in the mix.

But I really don't think guys like Mueller and Rosenstein are closet democrats or that democrats get better treatment from the DOJ or the courts than Republicans as a rule.

You [i] might[/i] make an argument for the Trump crew getting worse treatment, but ... well...

Let's just say, when the boss throws shit at the system and makes threats and messes with witnesses and prosecutors doing their jobs, he's not going to get the same cooperation for his folks as he might if he wasn't acting like a mafia Don.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@MistyCee If you look closely, you will see the goddamndemocrats were talking impeachment the day after Trump announced he was running, and has not changed since that day. Makes one wonder what that "insurance policy" that Struck/Stroke/Smirk was alluding to in those text messages to his mistress was all about, does it not?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee The problem you have is you think in terms of democrat and republican. Big mistake. You need to think in terms of bigger government and smaller government. It doesn't matter what party a person claims as their party. What matters is if they think that there should be more government including world wide governance or less government IOW devolving power to lower and lower levels of government thus giving individuals more control over their lives.
@hippyjoe1955 Actually, I wasn't thinking in terms of party or even big v small government when I was talking about guys like Mueller,Rosenstein, McCabe and Comey. They're not just bureaucrats. They seem to be a particular kind of bureaucrat, stick up the behind law enforcement guys who, regardless of party, are likely to have a problem with a criminal type like Trump asking for personal loyalty while he works at using the office to make money for himself and do favors for the foreign interests that have been sending him money for years every since the domestic lenders wanted nothing more to do with him.

Add that to the fact that these guys are educated dedicated public servants to whom truth, honesty and integrity mean something, and I totally get why they are inclined to distrust Trump and want to investigate him for both national security and criminal reasons.

It's really not about liberal/conservative or Republican/democrat, it's about honest v corrupt more than anything else imo.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@MistyCee McCabe is honest! Whouda thunk it! And mueller and his hatchet man Andrew Weissmann have a long record of having convictions overturned by appellate courts and the Supreme Court due to legal mishandlings.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@hippyjoe1955 “The people” chose Clinton. “The bureaucrats” gave us Trump.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OggggO So you don't understand how the elector college works either. Your ignorance is showing again. lol.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@OggggO The people ELECTED Donald Trump.
Snowflakes STILL have not recovered from their grief.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Those guys are cops. Dirty cops. They have taken bribes from Hillary. The US really needs to reform its political system to disincentivise taking bribes 'legally'. McCabe's wife runs for an office position she didn't want. Hillary through a PAC gives her a bag full of money. She doesn't spend the money and loses the election. She gets to keep the money. Her husband is the #2 in the FBI who will do everything he can to keep Hillary in the race for president even after the election went the other way..... How blind do you have to be to not see bribery in broad daylight?