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So i know politics is littered with national emergency threads at the moment but i'm still interested to know:

For those who think trump has made a good, wise and justified decision here, why do you think it was a good, wise and justified decision?

How do you feel about a president using a national emergency to bypass congress in order to achieve his political aims?
Would you be happy if a democratic president did the same?
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marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
I just really don’t give a damn what people think. If you don’t think this is a emergency your a very stupid person. Or your just simply not a American
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
I know someone who is quite stupid. @marriedplus3
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@marriedplus3 GW Bush told me that I’m as American as any of the founding fathers. Who are you to say any different?

He didn’t think it was an emergency either.
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
Well I said stupid or not American so I guess your one or the other @QuixoticSoul
@marriedplus3


Point of order, when your only defense is to call your opponent stupid it only broadcasts your own lack of confidence in your position and ability to defend it.

Careful of that.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@marriedplus3 Is GW stupid? Reagan? Immigration was worse in their times.

This is a fucking tantrum and you know it.
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
I did defend it. Illegals shouldn’t be coming over here simple as that@Pikachu
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@marriedplus3 Nobody said they should.
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
There stupid for not fixing the problem @QuixoticSoul
@marriedplus3

That's a logical fallacy known as a straw man.
You've misrepresented your opponents point to give the illusion of having refuted it.

He's not saying that illegals should be coming over, he's pointing out that illegal immigration has historically been higher and it wasn't considered an emergency then.
Heck, it's not considered an emergency now even by a number of republican leaders.
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
Lindsey Graham says it’s a emergency and Ted Cruz agrees @Pikachu
@marriedplus3

lol well good for them. So you take no issue with the bulk of my post then or so i must assume since you have made no comment.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Somebody doesn’t want to do anything about it. @QuixoticSoul
SW-User
@marriedplus3 Welp, better fork over my citizenship pronto.

You dont wait on a national emergency. If you wait, it aint.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@marriedplus3 Meanwhile, actual facts tell a very different story.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2017-Dec/BP%20Southwest%20Border%20Sector%20Apps%20FY1960%20-%20FY2017.pdf
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
He shouldn’t have waited @SW-User
SW-User
@marriedplus3 It's not an emergency. It's a giant personal vendetta. It has no place existing.
SW-User
@marriedplus3 this thing will be tied up in thr courts from now for years. Eminent domain cases will spring up in the hundreds of thousands.

Even if it did get through legal, the construction will take yeeeaars. Long after this dipstick leaves office. The WALL is a fever dream of a propaganda piece.
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
It’s a emergency Reagan should have fixed @SW-User
SW-User
@marriedplus3 Reality is what you want, sweetpea.
marriedplus3 · 31-35, M
I guess your opinion is very different from mine @SW-User
OggggO · 36-40, M
@marriedplus3
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixi9_cciy8w]
SW-User
@marriedplus3 see above.