So i know politics is littered with national emergency threads at the moment but i'm still interested to know:

@marriedplus3


Sorry, i can't take you seriously when you begin by labeling an entire population.

If you feel you have a point to make, try it again with a focus of argument rather than insult.

@marriedplus3 Yes, thank you grasshopper.

Anyone that can tell me children and women being sold for sex. Illegals killing Americans and drugs coming across the border isn’t a emergency there flat out stupid! Try telling a mother that lost there child to a illegal this isn’t a emergency @Pikachu

@marriedplus3

So then you'd agree that gun violence is also an emergency.

But i don't feel that you've fully supported your argument.
Yes, sometimes illegals are killing americans. Drugs are coming over too.
What makes it an emergency now?

This has been a emergency for many years. It’s not a new emergency. It’s just Trump the first president to try to fix it @Pikachu

@marriedplus3

You didn't answer my question. Please do so now.
It will inform the discussion moving forward.

So I’ll answer your question with a question.. so guns in some cases is a emergency. When a shooter goes into a school and kills children that’s a emergency. I think we both agree on that. In this situation you’d have to be careful how to deal with it. Wouldn’t a national emergency on guns possibly trigger a civil war? I mean if you go taking guns away it could create a larger emergency correct?@Pikachu

@marriedplus3

I don't know and i don't think that's a relevant question.
"What are the consequences of declaring a national emergency" has no bearing on whether or not it's an emergency.

And i'm not talking about an individual instance. Of course that's an emergency.
I'm talking about gun violence in america in general.
Is that an emergency?
If not, why not?

And I answered the question. Yes in some cases it’s an emergency. Just like the crisis at the border is a emergency. @Pikachu

@marriedplus3

Sorry, i don't feel that you have.

You keep answering the question "are there specific cases of emergency."
I'm not asking you if there are specific cases that are emergencies because that has an obvious answer.

The levels of gun violence and mass shootings in america: is that an emergency, yes or no?
If not, why not?

I said yes two times already. @Pikachu

@marriedplus3

Sorry, it was misleading because you insisted on saying "in some cases" rather than acknowledging the general problem.

So given that borer crossings are on the decline while mass shootings are increasing and the people getting killed by an illegal are far, far fewer than those being killed by gun violence, how do we justify calling a national emergency to build what will be an ineffective wall rather than dealing with the larger problem?

Would you agree that it is more politically motivated than necessity-based?

Ummm no actually walls work. Israel has one and its 99 percent affective @Pikachu

@marriedplus3


You didn't answer my question. Please do so now.

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Source? Effective at what?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but the main thrust of this "emergency" is, as you say, criminals, drugs and sex trafficking.
Well it turns out that most of that is not going to be much impeded by a wall. Illegals tend to come in more often just by overstaying their visas or misrepresenting their intentions for coming into the country. Same with sex trafficked women. Drugs are coming in on planes, trucks and boats or even being shot right over a wall.
So how is a wall going to significantly (and it must be significant for billions of dollars and a national emergency), reduce the rates of these issues?

@marriedplus3 Everyone agrees that illegal immigration is an important issue but has it reached a level of emergency proportions?

If the President feels that it is, why didn’t he declare it before today?

Look st this tweet:

Well I agree it should have been declared a emergency years ago @SimplyTracie

@marriedplus3 Trump has been President for over two years. Is he just slow in making a decision or is it really not a National Emergency?

Jeez, I wish he had smarter people on his staff to advise him. People who aren’t dumb as a rock.

I’m speaking for myself I wish he fixed this problem a lot sooner preferably the first 6 months of his presidency.@SimplyTracie

@marriedplus3

Hey, you're getting to my post next, right?

@marriedplus3 You are entitled to your opinion after all. As we all do.

One reason I voted for Trump is because of the wall. Today he did all he can do. Just he waited to long to do it. But I’m glad he finally did it @SimplyTracie

@marriedplus3 I’m guessing that there is no barrier where you live at the moment.

@marriedplus3

Hey guy, sorta seems like you're ignoring my question because you find it challenging.

I’m in South Carolina. But let me ask you this question. Is it ok for tax dollars to go towards providing welfare for illegal people in a since that’s a emergency as well!@SimplyTracie

Or you just ignoring my answer @Pikachu