MPs vote to NOT extend the no-deal Brexit deadline.

@Platinum A no deal hurts us more than them.

You don't know that, you just believe the scaremongers...I don't want a no deal although I'm not worried if that's how we leave, but if we go back to the eu with a weak deal and no deal is off the table, we will get shafted...@Burnley123

@Burnley123 hurts us both germany dont want no deal made that clear

@Burnley123 That’s highly questionable. Would you like to elaborate?

@MartinII There are loads of stats people can through around and a no deal would hurt the EU. It would hurt us more.

The stats that matter above all are:
1) The EU combines has five and a half times our economic power.
2) They are our biggest market (and geography dictates that they will stay our biggest market) for both imports and exports.
3) A no deal means no regulatory alignment. In simple terms it means you can't transport goods without checks and tariffs (the WTO rules have tariffs).
4) A literal no deal means that it wouldn't even be possible to travel or transport goods without a huge amount of red tape.

That is before we get onto other issues like the Irish backstop or the legal system or how to replace or re-allocate EU subsidies.

Even if no deal was a desirable option, it would take time to prepare for and we haven't got it.

@Burnley123 don't agree with any of that, experts and top businessmen have said we will get lower tariffs with WTO , the eu trades with WTO and there is a bigger market out there....as I've said you believe the wrong people , people who want to stay in for their own agenda...even you must realize the new wave of scaremongering is a joke...explain to me if no deal is off the table, what do we go to the eu with....

@Nyloncapes both the French and Germany have said a no deal will damage their economies by billions and ruin the other countries..they take eight times the amount of fish than we do....

@Platinum it is a disgrace them remainers coming out with scare mongering deaths because of certain stuff well below the belt

@Platinum yes they made that clear , merkel telling car makers no more selling to uk, losing thousand of jobs, and billions she is not popular as it is and that arrogant prat macron they have seen what he is really like now

We are in such a strong position to get a great deal, she just needs to tell the eu what she wants and walk away and let them come to us...@Nyloncapes

@Platinum I dunno if I believe the wrong people. Almost all economic experts think Brexit will make us poorer, especially a hard Brexit.

You are making it up...almost all is the most ridiculous comment you have made....there is at worse 50-50 there is no such thing as an expert on something that has never happened ...@Burnley123

@Platinum If my car is heading for a cliff at 70mph, not crash has happened yet.

From some of your comments you have made, you driving towards a cliff would not surprise me...lol@Burnley123

@Platinum back to your first reply to @Burnley123 on this sub thread.

It's less than 9% of the rest of the EU their exports to the UK. 9% is painful if suddenly new tariffs etc. But it is over 40% of ours so come 1st April I see it hurting us far more than them.

You do realize we buy so much more from them than they do from us...so they will lose more than us...Germany and France have both stated this week, a no deal will ruin both their economies and the same for the rest of Europe ...@SW-User

@Platinum in raw monetary terms but percentage wise I stand by my figures. Its 9% of their exports 40% of ours. Surely we're the ones baring the bigger risk.

@Platinum here's a good reference. The difficulty is measuring firstly potential overseas exports from here that go or arrive via Rotterdam and measuring services with no physical cross border movement.

But even the highest figure here is still 16%.

@SW-User explain where Germany are going to sell their cars, where they are going to sell their wine , all their fruit and veg going moldy...where are the French getting their fish from once we take back our 200 miles zone....we can buy from USA, China , Australia , India and South America ...plus many more countries...you can stand by your figures I will stand by facts...

@Platinum here's the argument I clearly am failing to make

Its about how much of your economy overall it is. That's why percentages matter not the value. They can survive instant tariff application more than us. Germany doesn't sell all its cars to the UK but throughout the EU they stay in so only cars coming here have to have 10% added to them. But we export to the EU, we are leaving so ours are 10% extra if sold to Germany, France, Spain etc. Germany sales to France, Spain still tariff free. So they can weather that increase easier than we can.

It isn't that trade stops but becomes more expensive, first due to us having to abide by WTO rules and tarrifs secondly through additional costs for export licences etc.

To me its simple business we're clearly at a disadvantage until we negotiate free trade deals

We have a yearly deficit with the eu of 135 billion and you think that's good...they are scared and a no deal will cripple them not us @SW-User

@Platinum Germany have said there would be , thousands of job losses straight away if no deal in Germany and billions lost , straight from the horse's mouth

@Platinum Absolutely right - though their current behaviour, or rhetoric, seems calculated to make no deal more likely.

Unless the eu are liars, a no deal would be our only option...@MartinII