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@SW-User The fact is, you're not a physician.

90% of all abortions are performed in the 1st trimester.

@Graylight no abortion should be legal a real woman would rather die herself than kill her own child

@Graylight One doesn't need to be a physician to look up the facts on fetal viability.


What does when most abortions occur have to do with what I said?

@SW-User That is 100% not true. I know personally, multiple labor and delivery nurses, on both sides of the abortion debate. There ARE medical reasons to abort that late.

@Pherick I also know many nurses and doctors on both sides of the debate and they have said the same as what I just said.

@SW-User she's worse kind of liberal worries more about illegals than American children born and unborn

@Mountainlady16 That's probably true. But we're not talking about children. We're talking about fetuses.

@Graylight fetus is still a child

@Graylight my last pregnancy was life threatening and never would I have murdered my son

@Mountainlady16 You're a fucking moron.

@OggggO you're an asshole

@Mountainlady16 A fetus is not, never has been, never will be a child.

But this is a sciency topic, so you may run along.

@SW-User They are wrong? I am not sure what to say. Its scares me to hear a nurse would say that. Its just a fact. There are medical reasons for it.

https://www.bpas.org/get-involved/campaigns/briefings/fetal-anomaly/

https://www.fpa.org.uk/sites/default/files/abortion-your-questions-answered.pdf

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/18/late-term-abortion-experience-donald-trump

@OggggO Spoken by someone who has multiple children, I am sure.

@Graylight a fetus is an unborn child and still human y'all dehumanise it so you'll feel better when it's murdered

@sunsporter1649 prob by 20 different women and doesn't take careeven 1 of them toi

@sunsporter1649 [quote]no abortion should be legal a real woman would rather die herself than kill her own child[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly

@Pherick None of those articles show any reason why the baby must be aborted, as opposed to being immediately delivered, for the physical health of the mother.

@Mountainlady16 Keep proving me right.

@SW-User actually an immediate delivery is quicker had to have emergency C-section back in Dec happened within an HR. 3rd trimester abortions take days

@SW-User So the mental health of the mother doesn't matter? Just her physical health? There are a wide variety of issues that a mother might want to abort if she learned about a genetic deformity after 24 weeks.

If someone already has 2 young children and they were going to have a 3rd that would be severely crippled and die young, you think a mother HAS to go through that? That she can't choose, for her own mental welfare and for that of her other young children to abort?

@Pherick Have you ever studied the mental health effects on a woman who has an abortion?

Either way, this woman is going to be devastated by the diagnosis her baby has received and her inability to care for it. In some cases, the baby passes after delivery. That's a pain that is beyond what any parent should have to bear.... but she can hold her baby and get closure. In other cases, the baby lives and has health problems. But, there are people who can and want to raise these children. (Which gets into a whole other topic of our screwed up adoption system)....

My point is, it's dishonest to say it's to save the life of the mother. It isn't. It's also dishonest to say that as long as the head stays inside the birth canal, it's still a fetus, but once the head is delivered, it's a baby. That's bs and we all know it. It's a baby, it's a life, and purposely ending it is not ok.

@Pherick I have another question for you. If you think it's cruel for these mothers to be forced to raise a baby with problems against her will, why is it a problem then, when a mother of a newborn kills her baby because she can't handle it? Why is it ok to do just hours before, but not after?

@SW-User Except when they are needed to save the life of the mother.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/10/19/abortion-mother-life-walsh/1644839/

[quote]Cecily Kellogg, 44, a writer who lives near Philadelphia, says that was the situation she faced when she was nearly six months pregnant with twin boys in 2004 and developed severe preeclampsia. One fetus had already died and "my liver had shut down, my kidneys had shut down and they were expecting me to start seizing at any minute," she says. The doctors said they had to quickly dilate her cervix and perform an abortion to save her. "I fought it," she says. "But they told me I would die — that it was either me and my son or just my son."[/quote]

Nearly 6 months would be 24 weeks.

I am just surprised that you think women are having abortions after 24 weeks because they are unwanted by their parents. Nothing about the data we have for post 24 week abortions shows that to be true.

@SW-User Because until that baby is born, its still a fetus and not a child.