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Is Youtube a breeding ground for the far-right?


For all the talk of 4Chan and the alt-right, it's Youtube which is now more significant as a focal point of far-right ideas. I know this because I've been seen it first-hand. I watched some videos by right-leaning Youtubers just to know what their arguments were and then Youtube algorithms started recommending me more radical things, including videos with 'ethno-nationalist' ideas.

For me, the Youtube right has three different layers. First, you have mainstream Conservatives or 'classical-liberals'. I'm thinking of Dave Ruben, Shapiro, Jordan Peterson and the so-called Skeptic community. Their primary frames of reference are hating social justice warriors, extreme-feminism and other straw-leftists. Some of them claim not to be on the right at all but I'm judging them by their arguments, not by their self-definitions.

Secondly, you have the alt-lite. This group includes Sargon of Akkad, Stephan Molyneux, Tommy Robinson, Paul Joseph Watson and others. They have the same arguments and priorities of the first group but also dabble in ethnonationalism and 'race-realism' arguments. The final group includes people who are outright and unapologetic NAZIs.

The problematic thing is that there are connections between the different layers. The mainstream right - in particular, Dave Rubin - give a platform to radical-right figureheads. He lets them speak their views without even cursory journalistic criticism and Ruben himself is funded by the Koch Brothers and is a supporter of Jari Bolsanaro in Brazil.

There are also thematic links between all three layers. Debates are framed around 'free-speech' in opposition to a partially imagined version of the radical left. However - when you look into it - the actual speech that is being defended is often nothing more than the right to have racist (or racist-adjacent) views and their examples of the radical left overreach are normally teenaged college activists. Jordan Peterson has done much to legitimise the idea of 'Post-Modern Neo-Marxism' as an all-encompassing bogeyman which is destroying western values. I honestly cannot tell the difference between this and the Cultural Marxist conspiracy theory and that is something which actually does have NAZI origins.

Most right YouTubers are not NAZIs but I do think they are popularising far-right ideas. By mislabeling the left as extreme and dangerous, it provides the far-right with cover. If Hitler was a socialist (sic) and Antifa are 'the real Fascists' then actual fascism can be safely ignored. By giving an uncritical platform to racialised ideas, they are making it possible for far-right ideologies to reach a much wider audience than they otherwise would. Most of the channels I mentioned have over a million subscribers and I'm sure some on this website will count amongst them.

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@pixelmann Whoa, and you think people who disagree with [b]you[/b] should be [b]killed[/b]. Thank you for showing everyone here exactly who you are. If one keeps you talking, you folks always reveal yourselves.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Agreed! I wrote a similar post only about Facebook because I came across an article keeping track of the most popular memes by the far right but also traces it to extremism with the added bonus that most of the memes are fake but they are spread like they are actual ideas.

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/08/31/how-facebook-right-wing-propaganda-machine-works/221151

Though I am really confused as to why Jeff Holiday being listed on that bottom pic, maybe I missed some of his political videos (which could have been the case) or it's a different Jeff Holiday. 🤷‍♀️ He's a science student that mostly talks about [b]pesudo[/b] science like anti vaxxers and all those shady alternative "doctors" that are out there.

All the people on that list are crazy far right people but Jeff Holiday has publicly criticized people deemed as "wingnuts" like Alex Jones and others... so I'm a bit confused.
TheConstantGardener · 56-60, M
Good post. I've noticed this too and it's quite easy to see how someone impressionable could be radicalised in this way.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@TheConstantGardener Thank you. I think a lot of people on SW have already been radicalised.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Burnley123 Speaking of radicalization, I've been listening to people talk about the book Combating Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan and a lot of the symptoms that Steven writes about in his book is very similar to the far right.

For instance:

-Information control (are there in groups and out groups, is there real transparency, does the group culture discourage asking questions)
-Replacing real identities with fake plastic ones
-Poisoning the Well
-Is there a code of silence with unethical behaviors of cult leaders (replace cult leaders here with far right YouTubers, the code of silence becomes relevant.)
-Do they encourage an us vs. them attitude
-Do they have black and white thinking
-Do they reject rational analysis, critical thinking and doubt
-[big]Do they promote phobias or instill fear[/big] <----That's a big one I think which kind of fits..
-Do they give their members extreme emotional highs and lows
SW-User
Youtube is too big to just have one breeding ground. There are alt right on every website, even this one.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User I don't disagree but YouTube is the epicentre.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PainfulTruth I have six paragraphs of analysis which perfectly describe you and people like you.
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Platoscave · F
Yes it seems so. Also collects your private information with a vengeance ...if you start talking back there.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@MalteseFalconPunch I'm got issues with Sargon too but PJW makes me cringe every time he opens his mouth. A million subs though and loads of praise in the comment section. Pfff
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Are restrooms the breeding grounds for socialists? 😉
Platoscave · F
@jackjjackson As much as SW is a breeding ground for the general idiocy of America.
Left right up down. It is all the same. I literally can't tell a difference between them and often have to look up the definitions to see what they really stand for.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@canusernamebemyusername A big problem is that a lot of people deliberately mis-represent their views and agendas, which makes labelling hard. In my own way, I'm trying to provide clarity.
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Platoscave · F
@Burnley123 If the Brazilian Rain Forest is finally bulldozed I won't be here to witness it. Enough. Glad I'm old.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platoscave Its awful though isn't it?
Platoscave · F
breathtaking.

 
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