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Why the “wall” works for the President and dooms the Dems

The largest voting block wants “the wall” in some form. By largest voting block I mean the largest plurality that agrees and supports any one political issue. They don’t want a fifth century wall they want a 21st century technology filled border barrier added to the areas where nothing exists together with more and better border security along the entire border it’s his signature issue and the one that will get him re-elected. It’s a win if the Dems continue to do zero. It’s a win if more “wall” goes up. Him sitting tight while the Senate kills any House approved bills works to his advantage even more daily. Meanwhile the Dems are the obstructionists.

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basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

You mean the wall that he thinks can be built into the sea and which doesn't do shit because most undocumented immigrants are in expired visas?

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

The “wall” concept includes cracking down on ILLEGALLY staying after a visa expires. @basilfawlty89

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@jackjjackson that's cute you need to tell illegally. You ever consider maybe if migrant workers are paid a decent amount they might actually afford to go back or renew their working visas?

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

That’s exactly what the vast majority of those who work in agriculture do. @basilfawlty89

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@jackjjackson citation needed

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

You’re the one claiming otherwise so do some homework and prove your assertion. @basilfawlty89

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@jackjjackson no no no. You said most who work in agriculture do, they make enough to either return home or renew they're visa, that's your claim. Show citations, don't weasel out.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Yep I wrote it. If you think it’s wrong do your own homework and prove your claim. @basilfawlty89

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@jackjjackson that's not how a debate works. Burden of proof is in the claimant.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Wrong again. I’m not debating you are. If you don’t like being held accountable post elsewhere 😉 @basilfawlty89

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@jackjjackson lol? Little wuss. You're the one running away from providing a citation for the claim you made out of thin air. You're not being personally responsible, you jackass.

Pikachu

@jackjjackson

[quote]If you don’t like being held accountable post elsewhere [/quote]

😆😂😭

Oh sweet jesus. The hypocrisy of that post is [i]delicious[/i]!

You make a claim, buddy asks for your source and then when you weasel out of it you criticize [i]him[/i] for not wanting to be held accountable!🤣👏👏👏

Amazing.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Pikachu The Trump is strong in him.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Nice tries. Neither of you or him can prove my statement is not true. @Pikachu @windinhishair

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@jackjjackson And you cannot prove your point.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Any luck? @basilfawlty89

Pikachu

@jackjjackson

*yawn*

Cute deflection.
Perhaps your unsubstantiated assertion cannot be disproved. Don't know, not interested. But that's not what i'm calling you out on.
You made a thoughtless comment to preserve your pride.
It demonstrated lack of self-awareness.
Your response now demonstrates your lack of humility in the face of your mistake.

Simple as that.

You've demonstrated a weakness for oblivious hypocrisy before. I suggest you take this opportunity to better yourself.

Lesson over.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Wrong. The lesson is none of you whiners can prove my statement wrong. Don’t take out your frustration with me being corrrct out of me, your family or pets. Admit it and move on. @Pikachu

MarmeeMarch · M

@jackjjackson dont bother - citation noted by your word is good enough for me and that's all that really matters - try not to listen to dummies that do nothing but sling shit on the walls of their mudhuts.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Listen? Exposing them as being totally wrong lol. @MarmeeMarch

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@MarmeeMarch awww, that's so adorable you two snowflakes absolutely trust one another and don't bother to think of yourselves or actually check out statistics, it's too precious <3

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Basil, Basil, Basil. Let’s review this again. I began a thread by asking a question. You want to debate the question. You have homework to do if you want to establish you have a point worth my time should I change to debate after examining your evidence. Either produce some or start a thread yourself please. @basilfawlty89

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@jackjjackson No, boyo. You made a bullshit claim, I told you to provide sources, you backed, shown yourself not to be responsible, and then had the audacity to claim I didn't have personal responsibility. I'm not the only one who said you weaseled out. It's right on the thread. The burden of proof is upon the claimant, I want a source for your claim, otherwise it's a load of shit and I'll treat it as a load of shit.

MarmeeMarch · M

@jackjjackson My thought is and will always be - stop with the US gimmie gimmies and you will see them "self deport" back to Mex. End the reign of drunk mexican criminals that shoot police officers ob Christmas day.

Enough is enough - [big]I've had enough of these fuckers [/big]- Let's go Trump you need to get 90% more aggressive this year.

basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M

@MarmeeMarch yeah, then you can just be stuck with your own citizens that commit more crimes and don't work hard like Mexicans do and have even more of a gimme gimme approach. Did you know most handouts are in red states?

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

You haven’t disproved my statement despite your googling all day. Name calling is beneath most people but apparently not you. Send me a link to a thread you will create that you want to debate. I’ll play. @basilfawlty89