Should the nuclear bombing of japan in WW2 be considered a war crime?

@1GHOST

I'm not sure how any of that was meant to be a counterargument.
Can you elaborate?

@Pikachu uhhh they attacked Pearl and started a war with us while we were still fighting in Europe . So its like hitting a person from behind while they are already in a fight / cowards .

2nd they were aware of our bombings of the mainland Japan so the first bomb put them on notice of our new technology and were given time to contact the USA and open talks but stubbornly did not so they got the 2nd one .

Remember they brought the war to us .

@1GHOST

[quote]So its like hitting a person from behind while they are already in a fight / cowards .[/quote]

Let's say it is like that. How does that make it less of an atrocity to turn around and murder tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children?
I want to hear you explain how "well they started it!" is meant to mitigate the horrifying nature of what the US did in response.
You aren't excused a war crime on the basis that the other side struck first.

[quote]2nd they were aware of our bombings of the mainland Japan so the first bomb put them on notice of our new technology and were given time to contact the USA and open talks but stubbornly did not so they got the 2nd one .[/quote]


....so the US used an atomic bomb on civilians, instantly killing thousands of men women and children....but japan didn't surrender and so the US used another bomb killing thousands more, so this should not be considered a war crime because....?
What? Is fair warning now a defense against the slaughter of civilians? No one forced the US to use the bomb.

[quote]Remember they brought the war to us .[/quote]

Yes, you've said that. Still not sure why it should be considered relevant to whether or not the nuclear bombing of civilians is a war crime.

@1GHOST if the US bombed a Russian military base and Russia in turn NUKED New York City and Dallas, im sure you’d be pretty quick to call that a war crime

@Pikachu JAPAN went to war with us ALL of Japan ...how about the US civilians they killed ??

Hey you started a fight and got your ass handed to you ...dont play the victim now .
Its to bad we lost the 3rd nuke before we could deliver it ..

And no country can go to war and not reasonably expect that ONLY military assets would be killed ...really ?

@AkariYokota Flaw in your statement : both NY and Dallas have large military bases .

But by your idea the bombs should only kill the military people not say : the person sitting next to them ....uuuh ...ok 🤔

@1GHOST No I just picked random big cities in the us with lots of civilians

@1GHOST The United States was not fighting in Europe until after the attack on Pearl Harbour drew the US into the conflict.

@1GHOST

[quote]Hey you started a fight and got your ass handed to you ...dont play the victim now .
[/quote]

You are not responding to my questions.
"You started it" does NOT excuse burning old folks and children in their homes.
"You started it" does NOT excuse turning pregnant women and babies into irradiated glass.

Answer to that directly.

[quote]And no country can go to war and not reasonably expect that ONLY military assets would be killed ...really ?[/quote]

An obvious example of the logical fallacy known as "straw manning".
This was not a question of civilians caught in cross fire as a result of a military engagement between soldiers. This was a wide scale assault that could have NO OTHER OUTCOME than the deaths of thousands upon thousands of civilians.

So answer the question. Why is deliberately bombing civilians not a war crime?
I think we've established that the schoolyard level "you started it!" doesn't hold water.

Try again.

I answered it ...the people of Japan started a war and ALL are a part of it in one form or other .

And you did not answer how about the US civilians that Japan killed first ??

SO if they set the level of ignorance between military and civilian people why should we treat them differently ?

@Pikachu Besides you want the truth ??
We should have taken over and claimed the island as ours .

You should also consider it lucky that the Russians didnt have time to mount and attack / they would have claimed and kept a chunk of it .

Bomb them again

@1GHOST

[quote]I answered it .[/quote]

Nah, son. You didn't.

You repeated your facile assertion that since the japanese started it, it's therefore not a crime to deliberately murder tens of thousands of civilians.
You have not in any way validated this assertion. I suspect at this point you are incapable of doing so.

Feel free to prove me wrong😁

[quote]And you did not answer how about the US civilians that Japan killed first ??[/quote]

lol oh sorry, i didn't realize you hadn't been to kindergarten.

*ahem*

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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@Pikachu we won enough said 😂

@1GHOST

lol yeah, nothing meaningful that you can really say at this point, is there sport?😁

You are excused...

@Pikachu Its all there pal .

(sigh) i'll slow it down for you ...

How do you explain the unprovoked attack at Pearl ?

@1GHOST

[quote](sigh) i'll slow it down for you ...

How do you explain the unprovoked attack at Pearl ?[/quote]

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Aww buddy....


Let me try to get this idea across to you in the simplest possible terms:

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Do you follow, sport? Are you keeping up?

Go ahead and explain for the class why an attack on pearl harbor means it's ok to turn women and children into irradiated glass.
Come on, smart guy! lol tell us why "they started it" means it should not be considered a war crime to deliberately murder tens of [i]thousands[/i] of civilians. I'm calling you OUT, son! I'm challenging you to rationally defend your position and *spoiler alert* [i]you can't do it[/i]!
But feel free to prove me wrong.
Or was 3rd grade pretty much where you peaked...
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i see you are still avoiding the question ..
sigh ..you have no ability to defend your position well nice try trolling your point ...or lack of

@1GHOST

lol i see this is still going way over your head.

Ok, champ. I'll answer you question just as soon as you clarify what kind of answer you want.

"How do you explain the unprovoked attack at Pearl ?"

Well what do you mean? What am i meant to be explaining and how does it connect to the issue under discussion?

So when you inevitably fail to even answer this, when you demonstrate that you don't even understand the point YOU'RE trying to make, much less mine, am i trolling you?

lol let's do this, tiger.
Or was that your way of announcing that you're fleeing the thread?😁

You can continue to evade the question, balls in your court, i'll wait .

@Pikachu unfortunately war is part of all human history. But the bombs ended it, saving American lives. The goal.

@1GHOST

Look kid, i know i've handed you your ass pretty consistently here but as hilarious as i find your child-style attempts at debate, i'm actually just trying to get you to clarify what you mean so that i can give you an answer. Because when i give you your answer you're going to have to answer [i]my[/i] question and THAT is going to be hilarious🤣

So help me out. When you say explain pearl harbor, what are you asking for?
You want me to explain what happened? Check wikipedia.
You want me to explain how the japanese attack was perfectly ok? Why would i?
You want me to explain why it makes it ok to nuke civilians? Because i won't be making your point for you lol.

Come on, champ. I can tell that debate is a new concept for you but i can't hold your hand the whole way.
Tell me what you want answered and i will answer you. And then you'll answer me and i'll tear you to shreds 😁😁😁

@DrawntoaDistance

[quote]But the bombs ended it, saving American lives. The goal.[/quote]

Sure. But what does that have to do with the consideration of whether or not it should be considered a war crime?

@Pikachu it’d take like the most minimal comprehension of what war entails for you to understand, and for some reason you don’t appear to have it in you

@DrawntoaDistance

[quote]it’d take like the most minimal comprehension of what war entails[/quote]

Ah good. I'm glad it's so basic.
In that case, you'll have no trouble answering the question.

Sorry, i don't do deflections. You're incompetent to answer the question or simply too lazy. Either way, you haven't made your case and i won't waste time on you.

Your move.

@Pikachu i just worked 14 hours. And you’re boring af.