IF A Fetus Is Not Human Life...

@TheSeptikSkeptik Slavery was once upheld by the Supreme Court. Was that right?

@SheikYerbouti Speaking of illogical, you are moving the goalposts. Answer my question please.

@TheSeptikSkeptik Answer mine and quit deflecting.

@SheikYerbouti Speaking of slavery, do you think that it's fair that once a woman gets pregnant, she has to give up her bodily rights?

@SheikYerbouti It's not deflection, the question you presented is completely pointless Mr. Logical. It's your classic whataboutism.

@TheSeptikSkeptik If you have no intention of answering just say so.

@TheSeptikSkeptik Yet you still evade there Einstein

@SheikYerbouti You are fucking ridiculous. I asked you a question first, then you answer my question with a completely irrelevant question. Why does it matter if the supreme court ruled for slavery? What does that have to do with abortion? You are clearly not versed in logic. Not only that, but we both already know the answer to your pointless question. The rulings had completely different sets of criteria to judge from. Please go learn how to logic because this is incredibly ridiculous and the lack of self-awareness is pretty jolting.

@TheSeptikSkeptik You clearly can't answer a simple question. You cite a Supreme Court ruling that taking away a woman's right to provide a fetus special rights is unconstitutional. Then I ask was the Supreme Court right in its ruling on slavery. Why can't you answer that one?

@SheikYerbouti Because it's a dumb fucking question that has nothing at all to do with the ruling on abortion. Yes, slavery is bad. So what? So according to you, if the supreme court ruled immorally on one position, they rule immorally on all positions? Nobody fucking said that the Supreme Court was infallible. That wasn't a claim that has been made. You are building a straw man, Mr. Logic. I suggest that you go study up on your epistemology because you've not made one logical argument yet. Pro-life is an emotional point of view, not logical. You are entitled to your own beliefs, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

@TheSeptikSkeptik Look who is building straw man arguments. Point being law doesn't equate to morality ( unless it's something you agree with, I guess ) Your name calling is amusing, your type are always the first to go down that road when you can't argue coherently. Of course someone who supports abortion thinks the pro-life side is emotional and not logical. That's an automatic cut off for any discussion.

@SheikYerbouti It's an automatic cut off because you're a fucking dishonest piece of shit who's trying really hard to find any way you can to deflect from answering my question because you know it's a fucking logical trap that you cannot avoid falling into. Point out my straw man please.

@TheSeptikSkeptik Talk about a dishonest piece of shit, you're so full of it your breathe stinks. You claim I said that if the Supreme Court ruled immorally on one case then they rule that way on every. Never said that. You're not very good at this. Go get some education.

@TheSeptikSkeptik Your supreme court also ruled that it was "constitutional" that slaves were slaves wherever they travelled in the United States because they were OWNED by their masters and that blacks did NOT have the same human rights as whites or Asians (Dred Scott case). You okay with that? Your holy Supreme Court said it was. If you were black though you might have seen that differently ... as would a baby in the womb today.

As for "logic" tell me WHEN a "fetus" is NOT a human being and can be killed? Your very ANSWER will be illogical which not being a logical person you probably won't understand anyway.

No @MJAZ70 he isn't very well educated. But then those on the other side of this argument cannot be or else they would not be there in the first place.

@Abrienda You are straw manning. I never made those claims. Is that a shotgun argument I see? Wow, how logical of you. That's not logic at all. The supreme court argument is not logical in this instance because it has zero to do with the actual abortion ruling. That's called a non sequitur. You are basing your abortion claim on a supreme court ruling about slavery? Where is the logical path from the Supreme Court ruling on slavery and the supreme court ruling on abortion? How are these events even related? They are not. You clearly don't understand logic and I suggest you read some David Hume. Abrienda, I'm not educated? I'm a microbiologist. You are just a random dumbfuck assumption generator who makes assertions without evidence and I'm the uneducated one? Yes, you are laughably stupid. But go on, debunk some more claims that I had never made.

Slavery and a fetus? False equivalency. Go learn logic before dictating to me how it works because you are just making one giant argument form ignorance. Your whole post is incredibly fallacious. Any more of this shit and I will gladly point out all of the informal logical fallacies made in your post.

@Abrienda "he isn't very well educated. But then those on the other side of this argument cannot be or else they would not be there in the first place." Wow. Nice hasty generalization. Another logical fallacy. Who is the uneducated one here? Amazing. Dunning Kruger in action right here bois.

@TheSeptikSkeptik OH! The AMERICAN Supreme Court said so! Well that's alright then. As if that applies to other countries...and even if it did have you heard of Dred Scott? THAT was a Supreme Court ruling too? Shall I find you some others that were overturned because the reasoning was found intellectually and morally bankrupt.

And this is your example of thr superiot logic of the abortionist argument/

Try this Mr Superior Logician. 1) Woman has sex. 2) Woman becomes pregnant. 3)All things being normal and with any outside agency, like an abortionist of someone like you kicking her in the stomach,, what will she give birth too? I have made it multiple choice for you -let's see if get it right?

a) a car
b) a piano
c) a human
d) a table

Now in case you don't know, the correct answer is 'c'...you with me? Good.

Now Mr Superior Logician...tell me the exact moment from inception to birth the baby suddenly becomes a HUMAN LIFE FORM? Day 1? Day 61? Day 101 and 3 hours> Day 101, 3 hours, 10 seconds? And when is it not?

If you had ever taken a course in logic you would now just slink back into you septic tank because any linear answer you give will refute your entire position. Of course I understand why you and the other "men" here argue so strongly the case for abortion...which has NOTHING to do with "body autonomy" and you know it! It is so you can (if you get her drugged first) have sex with a woman then if she gets pregnant you can run away from your responsibilities by telling her to "take care" of it at the local PP..."it" being your baby. And in your sick mind you will consider yourself a "gentleman" by offering to pay for it.

The lesson for you is over.