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Did anybody vote for this kind of Brexit?

May's deal gives us access to trade with the EU on more or less equal terms but gives us no power to decide anything and won't stop freedom of movement. It doesn't guarantee worker protections but - under the state aid rules - it makes it hard for governments to do major economic interventions like nationalising industries.

Its a Conservative (in all senses) soft Brexit.

A case can be made that this is not the worst outcome. But nobody can make the case that this is a good outcome because it has some (though not all) of EU membership benefits, no voting or veto rights and gains [i]nothing[/i] at all. So much for 'taking back control'.

A lot of people will blame politicians for selling out Brexit but this misses the point. There is no way that a good Brexit deal could be negotiated because the EU has over five times our power and no incentive to let us have our cake and eat it. May [i]has[/i] negotiated this badly but nobody who calls her soft has a tenible strategy for how they would do better. Boris and Jacob Reece Mogg flying to Brussels tomorrow and telling Johnny foreigner where to stick to make Britain Great again doesn't really count as a plan.

People [i]have[/i] been sold out by politicians but that happened [i]before[/i] the referendum when people were promised something that the politicians knew they could never deliver.

Nobody voted for this deal. We need a referendum on it.
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Platinum · M
We voted once and voted to leave...May is a remainer and never intended to leave while she was PM...she has got us a deal that will be worse than remaining, we need a PM who wants to leave and can put a deal together..the eu does have an incentive to give us a deal, 39 billion and 630 billion pounds of trade...if we have another referendum, which I believe will be fixed, and the vote says remain , this country would be split and this country would never be the same again..if the vote still says leave, remainers will still not accept the result and we would still be in the same position...we need May to resign and someone take her place who has a backbone and can put a good deal to the eu and be willing to walk away...
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum We are a net contributer to the EU but we have less than one fifth of their combined GDP. We need them more than they need us.

People voted for a deal that is impossible to achieve.
Platinum · M
If that was true why are they busting a gut to keep us in...we pay more money into the eu than at least 80% of the other 27 countries....of course a deal can be done but May has never had any intention to put one foreword ...we can go with the Canadian deal ...May has appointed another brexit secretary but she is doing the negotiating..that tells you everything..@Burnley123
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum Its the third one in a year, all of them Brexiteers and none of which succeeded in getting a good deal. If they resign they can blame someone else though.
Platinum · M
They may have been for brexit, but she has been the only one who has negotiated@Burnley123 @Burnley123
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum No, Britain's chief negotiators were ardent Brexiteers and both resigned having failed.
Platinum · M
Because May overrides any decision they made@Burnley123
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum What Brexit would you want that the EU would agree to?
Platinum · M
I've told you the Canadian deal ....but I don't know what the eu would agree to , they change their minds...a few weeks ago they said they would stop our planes, they would close the ports and then they said they would not....so I'm baffled@Burnley123
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum Well a Canada deal is hard Brexit and it would do those things.
Platinum · M
@Burnley123 @Burnley123 we will see, all politicians are not really to be trusted...I think the biggest back stabber Gove is trying for PM...watch him
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum Oh o agree about Gove. He was the worst education secretary of all time and is a Z list Frank Underwood.
Platinum · M
@Burnley123 see we can agree on something...lol
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Platinum 👍️