Leftists HATE Facts Part II: Trump "Overrides" the Constituion By Executive Order!

On a post I read here Leftists went insane as usual over "threats" that your President Trump was about to "ooverride the Comstitution" by executive order. Of course facts never being their best quality when I asked what exactly that meant they replied President Trump was going got "repeal" the 14th Amendment by executive order and violate the Constitution.

Sigh...

Being a soon to be European I am amazed how little American history must be taught anymore to Americans while we in the Philippines had MANDATORY classes in the subject. The author of that post did not know your Constitution was passed before your Bill of Rightd and that they are separate documents but wrote the impeachable "crime" President Trump was about to commit was against the 14th Amendment. Of course he did not read or bother to reseach what exactly President Trump intended nor anyone else who posted there excepto yo. It took 10 minutes.

President Trump (doesn't it just drive Leftiies CRAZY when I use his proper title?) wants to ban birthright citizenship which he says correctly is not protevted by the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment was wrtten to enfranchise Black-Americans who the Democrats wanted to deny full rights as Americans - like voting their former slave-owners asses out of office. Since then it has been interpreted that ANY child born in the United States is an Amerocan citizen even if the parents are not. The result is what I saw advertised in the Philippines and is much bigger in China - birthright tourism...a pregnant woman from outside the USA comes to the United States and births her child there. In China agents provide complete services....doctors, lawyers, a place to stay and everything for about 15-20,000 USD. This means American CITIZENS are actually paying for the children of NON-CITIZENS (who also stay in the USA of course...hear all that "we cant seprate families" trash from Democrats? Thats what that is really about!). It also means that IF before 9/11 Osama bin Laden had made sure each of his wives gave birth here all the children of Osama including his son who took over when daddy was killed would have been US citizens.

Is THAT what the 14th Amendment was all about?

If you think "yes' then here are the words of the man who wrote the "citiznship clause" in the 14th Amendment -

"This will not, OF COURSE, include persons born in the Unted States who are foreigners, aliens who beling to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers."

Sen.Jacob Howard, Republican

The words 'of course" show that every REASONABLE and INTELLIGENT person knew that. Unfortunately he never met a modern Leftist.

What did Democrats used to think about this issue? How about this -

"If being an illegal alien wasn't already easy enough, how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant? No SANE country would do that, right? Guess again!"

Sen. Harry Reid, Democrat

The Democrats now, of course are all against this. Their entire purpose is and always has to gain and hold on to power and are willing to do anything - from requiring US citizens to pay for the services to their children so their parents will from gratitude for allowing them to scam the system vote them it office to treason against the United States to make it so.

In fact what Presdient Trump proposes is RETURN the 14th Amendment to its ORIGINAL meaning. Pity Mr. STOut who accused me of being a "foreigner" who "wanted to overthtow our constituion" didn't have the time to find that out ... okay it really took me 30 minutes to do.

BTW...isnt someone referring to me as "a foriegner who wants to overthrow our constituiton" ironic when I am the one arguing for the United States to PROTECT its citizenship rights? Oh well I only do what Putin pays me to do - another idiotic accusation I have read.

Oh... and isn't calling me a "foreigner" in a negative way kinda...I dunno...racist?

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

Wow, I can't really figure out what you do stand for. I guess having diverse beliefs and interests is healthy.

Lila15 · 22-25, F

@samueltyler2 She basically hates liberals. I'm convinced she's a Russian troll who is paid to post this stuff. She's awfully knowledgeable for someone who claims to be a Croatian living in the Phillippines, or maybe I have that backwards.

Lila15 · 22-25, F

@unearthed She's obviously read up on a few things. So have I. Can you at least admit that she's completely biased? It doesn't help if you encounter a knowledgeable person who disagrees with you, and you dismiss them as an idiot or evil for that reason. Insults and invective have no place in intelligent discourse.

Anyone who says the 14th Amendment means one and only one thing, proves that they don't understand how jurisprudence works. Judges interpret the law based on precedent and their own philosophy, be it textualism, originalism, or taking modern conditions into account. Otherwise, we wouldn't need judges, we could get by with law clerks who would look stuff up and tell us what the law says.

If the 14th Amendment only refers to granting citizenship to freed slaves, since all of them are dead now, is it moot? The reality is that if an illegal immigrant commits a crime, he can be arrested, tried, convicted, and imprisoned because he is "subject to the jurisdiction of" the United States, despite being a citizen of another country. That clause refers to diplomats who are not "subject to the jurisdiction of" the U.S., because if a diplomat commits a crime, he cannot be arrested, he can only be expelled. So his kids born here are not citizens, while an illegal immigrants' kids are. If you don't like that, then amend the Constitution to read "birthright citizenship only applies to children of natural-born or naturalized citizens" or something like that.