Have the Democrats made a single adjustment

@puck61 Trump isn't bringing light ... he's only good for slinging mud and blowing smoke.

If you want more 'truth' you really can't back a pathological liar.

@WoodyAq The left wing culture warriors look like caricatures of themselves! From physical appearances and the sounds of their voices to the craziness that they bring out for 'show and tell' they look like they came right out of the imagination of a comedy writer ! It's amazing!

@puck61 You are dodging the point. It doesn't help your case.

@WoodyAq It's hard to dodge what isn't there! My case? I'm making a case? Nope. I'm just stating facts and laughing my ass off at all of the leftists culture warrior clowns. I have to laugh, if the clueless generation puts them in the wheelhouse, everything is toast, and a beautiful dream is going down the toilet.

@puck61 You are making a case that the people you disagree with are less honest than the guy you support. And since he's a pathological liar, that's obviously not true.

@WoodyAq You want to believe that he is a pathological liar. I'm sure he has lied, but as far as lying to the American people, Obama makes him look like a saint. Like the saintliest saint ever!

@puck61 Yeah, that's what he says.

Politicians will often stretch the truth, omit information, or tell outright lies about certain things.

But Trump lies obviously, all the time, [i]about everything[/i].

That's a big difference.

@WoodyAq In your alternate universe, perhaps. I know nothing of your alternate universe except a lot of things happen there that don't happen here.

@puck61 So, in spite of the satellite images, Trump had the largest inauguration crowd in history? In spite of the audio tapes, he didn't payoff Stormy Daniels? Don Jr. just discussed adoptions with the Russians?

etc., etc. etc.

Seriously man: my universe has a lot of documentary evidence that completely contradicts yours.

You aren't helping your point be pretending evidence isn't evidence.

@WoodyAq That's petty stuff. Trump has sold out crowds every time he has a rally. Anyone can find a picture of a sparsely occupied stadium, but it's not even important. Just like his gaff with the pastor who had been in prison. It's petty nonsense. You guys can eat it up all you want but it doesn't change the 289 great things he has done in less than two years! If your blue wave washes everything away, perhaps you can return us to less than mediocrity, and you can feel proud then, eh?

@puck61 [quote]That's petty stuff. [/quote]

That's precisely my point. Trump lies about [i]everything[/i]. Even about the petty stuff.

But collusion with the Russians isn't petty...

@WoodyAq Oh my gawd! No you're joking! You're going to give me a 'stand up routine'? That is a complete joke at this point. Of course when everyone sees that the whole thing was created by people who were afraid of Trump, and the criminal activity involved , it's going to get real interesting.

@puck61 You are dodging again.

@WoodyAq Oh my gawd. I must be the artful dodger! You guys love to say that. Perhaps you could draw me a picture so I might understand what the hell I am dodging! 😆

@WoodyAq Here ya go, Woodrow!

https://similarworlds.com/30-Miscellaneous/2260042-Imagine-if-the-time-money-and-manpower-that-was?rid=25425864

@puck61 The fact that Trump lies about everything, both petty and significant.

If a lot of people are saying it, there is probably a reason.

@puck61 Yeah. None of that explains why 5 people from the Trump campaign held over 70 meetings with representatives of the Trump campaign, and why they all lied about those meetings, why they didn't inform the FBI about what they knew about Russian meddling, and why Trump on at least one occasion, instructed his son to lie about a meeting with Russians after the fact.

A non-dodge answer would have to explain all the meetings and all the lies.

@WoodyAq In your world this is happening. In 'my' world Trump is turning out to be one of the best presidents in history. Honestly I plugged my nose and voted for Trump, but now, I fecking love the guy! He pisses all the right people off, and he is doing a fantastic job. I like how he plays the chronically offended mob like a fine guitar! The guy is thinking 10 or twelve moves ahead of everyone! This is what is happening in the world I occupy.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

@WoodyAq I don't pay much attention to leftist propaganda. I watch it just to see what they are up to sometimes, but none of that garbage really matters to me.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

@puck61 My world is the one where people have actually admitted to these things in open court, under oath. And where these admissions are a matter of public record. Trump himself admitted to helping his son lie... after the lie was exposed.

Your world apparently doesn't include this documented and readily verifiable reality.

And because it doesn't, the whole thing is suspect.

@puck61 You apparently don't pay much attention to reality either.

It's fine to have a different interpretation, but when your worldview can't explain observable facts, it isn't much good to anyone.

@WoodyAq

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

@puck61 More dodging ...

@WoodyAq My point is, you have no endgame. You want doomsday over fabricated crimes .

@puck61 And you are claiming fabrication, and yet refuse to explain the known facts. And if your theory can't accommodate the facts, then it is no good.