How can anyone support this?

@redredred good point! Send that up the food chain. it is priceless and true

@redredred Can you name any crime committed by the parent that is punishable by imprisonment of the child?

its the parents that put the child in jeopardy. the government is providing the child with food care and shelter. if a homeless person with a child in tow is arrested would you want that child to be set free or cared for by the government?@OggggO

@redredred Nope, 100% Trump:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/07/02/judge-rules-trump-administration-has-been-wrongly-detaining-asylum-seekers/753151002/
https://thinkprogress.org/amnesty-international-report-dhs-lying-asylum-seekers-09a94d5f2df5/
https://www.vox.com/explainers/2018/8/6/17501404/trump-asylum-separate-legal-definition

USA Today? Think Progress? Vox? come on why not pravda? answer my question about the homeless arrestee and we can discuss or admit you cant.@OggggO

@redredred And what sources have you provided? None? Then shut the fuck up.

i dont need to cite sources to ask my own original questions. Answer it if you can or admit you cant.@OggggO

@redredred Except your questions contain inherent assumptions, many of which are wrong.

then they should be easy for such a learned observer as yourself to answer. What would you like to see happen to the children of arrested homeless people, should they set free or cared for by the government? @OggggO

@redredred I did, you called my links propaganda and ignored them.

i asked YOU not some leftist propaganda sources. What do YOU want to see become of the minor children of arrested homeless people? Should they be set free or cared for by the government? Answer the question this time or everyone reading this will know you cant without invalidating your initial premise. I am quite obviously calling you out on that premise. Quit fucking around. @OggggO

@redredred So, just to be clear, you're saying A DC District Judge did not rule that Trump's imprisonment of minors was illegal? And that Amnesty International did not find that the Trump Regime was arresting people who had committed no crime?

But since you insist on being pedantic, what would I like to see happen to the children of arrested homeless people? Not being put in tent cities. Is that sufficient for your utterly stupid question?

No, its not sufficient. Judges make mistakes all the time and Amnesty International has no standing in this question. Since you can't or won't answer the question, I'll offer the only reasonable response. People arrested for whatever jailable offence who were irresponsible enough to involve their minor children in these crimes have the advantage that the government will care for their children. When massive amounts of criminals engage in similar jailable offenses it is possible to overwhelm the available resources for child care and we do the best we can. I too am sorry such children can't be housed at the Four Seasons but I didn't put them in that position; their parents did. @OggggO

@redredred Not criminals, not being cared for, not remotely the best we can.

@redredred Entering the country illegally is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by jail time of up to 6 months. Yes, it's illegal. But it's not murder or rape.

Parents me be separated from their children while being processed or even spending time in jail (when was the last time you knew someone who did real time for a misdemeanor?). They don't lose custody, they aren't separated for weeks and months at a time, they don't lose track of their children within the system's care and they don't lost their children to adoption.

The bigger issue at hand is whether this administration's policy is capricious and overtly racist in nature.

@Graylight Beyond that, they aren't just jailing people who enter illegally, they're jailing people seeking asylum, which is legal. They are then deporting the parents and keeping the kids here. This isn't a matter of "what's the best answer to a tough question", it's flagrantly abusing children to oppress people.

@OggggO You are absolutely right.

@redredred Are you one of those gits that think only your echo chamber of Fox News and Breitbart count as "real news"?

@basilfawlty89 no. I'm one of those stickers who thinks committing a crime makes one a criminal.

@redredred A misdemeanor. You got any unpaid parking tickets? Can I take your family away then?

@basilfawlty89 A traffic ticket is an infraction not a misdemeanor. Entering the country illegally can be a misdemeanor or it can rise to the level of a felony depending upon circumstances. If you plan on coming for any members of my family, best put your affairs in order first. They are all grown and you wouldn't enjoy the experience.

@redredred but in most cases it is a misdemeanor, most undocumented immigrants are in the US on expired working visas they cannot afford to renew. If you wanna whine about people, maybe whine about employers that don't pay them enough to renew. If you wanna whine about people, complain about exploitative business that hired undocumented people at starvation wages.

But you lot are keen to defend big business and capitalism no matter what.

Also, asylum seekers are legal and not undocumented

@redredred By Trump's own admission when this policy began, his goal was to coerce the Democrats into funding the wall. Since then the goal is to make seeking asylum such a horrific experience that no one will do it anymore.

I can only conclude that your reasons for supporting this despicable policy is you're either an ignoramus, or you're a truly evil person who delights in torturing children. The next step would be tossing them into the ovens, and it wouldn't surprise me if you approved of that too if it ever gets to that point.

People wonder how the Holocaust happened. They didn't start with Auschwitz, that came later after a lot of rhetoric blaming Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, the disabled, etc. for the ills of society. After people got used to the idea that these marginalized groups posed a threat, they didn't have a problem when the Gestapo started rounding them up and killing them.

@redredred Again, you make a lot of statements based on presumptions that are not factual.