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Will Trump go down in history as America's most embarrassing president?

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hippyjoe195561-69, M
Old enough to remember when the same was said of Reagan. Funny that.
@hippyjoe1955

[i]Funny that.[/i]

Why?
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu How the most embarrassing president in US history (Reagan) is now viewed as one of the greatest. I suspect the same will be true of Trump.
I suspect that's pretty wishful thinking馃槒
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu The most embarrassing president the US ever had was Obama followed by Carter.
@hippyjoe1955

Nah. You just didn't agree with his policies. He was a smart and competent man who did things you disagree with.
Trump is a buffoon with no understanding of international politics, trade or diplomacy.

There have been many republican politicians i disagree with. But they weren't embarrassments the way trump is.

You still need to learn to learn the difference馃槈
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu It wasn't disagreeing with his policies so much as his stupidity and narcissism. Imagine sending Hillary to Russia with a 'Reset' button and the button was mistranslated. How corrupt to do you have to be to send billions to Iran and Europe to help Iran build nukes? Oh about as embarrassing as Carter and the gas shortages where you couldn't get gas for your pinto or gremlin.
@hippyjoe1955

lol criticizing obama for narcissism while supporting trump...just a bit oblivious there i feel...

Like i said, you didn't like the things obama did but he was respected by the international community, a good speaker and a fair man.
Trump by contrast thing international politics means crying about how everything is unfair and shouting "look at the size o my missiles! yeehaw!" He regularly and consistently LIES about documented objective fact. He's called the press the enemy of the american people. His behaviour forced his staff to coin the phrase "alternative facts"

Yeah dude, that's pretty much the definition of embarrassing馃槅
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu You don't even know what a narcissist is. lol lol lol lol
@hippyjoe1955

*ahem*
a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves

You know, like the kind of person who regularly declares that he is the best most popular, rich, effective, intelligent etc...

Whereas Obama...did things you didn't like.


lol you just got [i]schooled[/i] son!馃榿
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu You don't even know what a narcissist is. lol lol lol lol Your definition shows me just how clueless you really are.
@hippyjoe1955

um...that's a dictionary definition, my dude.

Here's another:

a personality disorder characterized especially by an exaggerated sense of self-importance, persistent need for admiration, lack of empathy for others, excessive pride in achievements, and snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes

Now go ahead and make the case that obama fits that description while trump does not.
Come on, big fella. Laugh your way out of that one馃榿馃榿馃榿
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu Here is a hint. Narcissus was a Greek who was captivated by his [b]IMAGE[/b] so much so that he would spend all day every day staring at it. Narcissism is not a big ego. It is fixation on one's image resulting in nothing being accomplished. Trump did more in his first week than Obama did in 8 years. Why? Because Trump has a large ego and thus gets things done. Obama is a narcissist and is fixated on his image of what being a president should be. Obam did nothing because he was fixated on his image.
MissPriscillaPrim70-79, T
@hippyjoe1955 "Narcissistic personality disorder is... characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an excessive need for admiration, and a lack of empathy. Those affected often spend a lot of time thinking about achieving power or success.
"Symptoms:Exaggerated feelings of self-importance, excessive need for admiration, lack of understanding of others' feelings."
Once again, Joe, your mouth is racing without putting your brain in gear.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@MissPriscillaPrim Which describe Obama much more than Trump. Think Benghazi under Obama and compare that to the Americans freed from North Korea by Trump. Trump stayed up 20 hours and waited in an airplane to meet the newly freed people. Obama left his ambassador to die while he flew to Vegas.
MissPriscillaPrim70-79, T
@hippyjoe1955 Wow... Benghazi? REALLY?... I feel sorry for people like you, digging deeper and deeper into your narrow little web of delusion, telling yourself nearly everyone else is deluded and/or lying as they use documented facts to refute the lies of the extremist freak-shows you keep watching, and more and more evidence piles up proving how ill-placed your loyalties are. Putting up a false front of bold courage as your assumptions are already crumbling under you.
@hippyjoe1955

lol ah so what you meant was that YOU don't know what a narcissist is. You think that since trump threw a lot of shit at the wall to see what sticks then he can't be a narcissistic.
Just a really good job of ignoring the everything about the meaning of a word except the parts that support your prior conclusion.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@MissPriscillaPrim You don't know about Benghazi? Wow how long did it take your mother to teach you how to breathe? Talk about cluesless!!!!! Wow Wow Wow Wow.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu Actually I do know about them and have dealt with several in my personal life. Obama is a narcissist. Trump has a big ego. Very different creatures.
@hippyjoe1955

Sorry dude. You don't know what you're talking about. You love trump and hate obama. That's really the long and the short of it. You want to believe ill of obama and can;t stand criticism of trump.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/the-human-beast/201608/does-trump-suffer-narcissistic-personality-disorder

Go through that list and give me examples of how obama fits that description.
But i think we both know you won't have the integrity to do that. 馃槙
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Pikachu Remain in your cluelessness.
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hippyjoe195561-69, M
@LvChris Wow you are as clueless as pikachu. Pity. Remain in your ignorance since no one can open the mind of some one like you who has chosen to close it. Sad. Really sad. Oh well its a case of mind over matter. I don't mind because you don't matter.
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@hippyjoe1955

lol my dude, i've never once seen you admit to being wrong in any way and i don't expect you to start now.
But to anyone observing this interaction, the quality and content of your post speak for themselves馃槍
@LvChris

[quote] Why do you still give him the time of day?[/quote]

Because he's so fun! He's not a challenge! There are plenty of people on this site who i have to work hard to debate. Which is fun of course, but sometimes you just want to kick back and have an easy game.

Hippyjoe is the online debate version of tic tac toe when you're a bit worn out on chess馃槈
That's why i love him.