Should Trump pardon Manafort?
26-30, F
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BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
No.
But he will.
And then Manafort will be called into a grand jury and compelled to testify with no possibility of immunity. Soon after that he'll be charged by prosecutors in New York and Virginia for violations of state law that Trump can't pardon. He'll likely do between 8 to 12 years.
The same thing will happen each time he uses his pardon power to try to suppress testimony that could implicate him. The charges against everyone indicted so far are stacked 3 layers deep, and even firing Mueller won't stop the process. Cohen has already coughed up enough documents and testimony to fuel litigation in another 5 cases.
Trump and his backers don't fully realize it yet, but they really have no good options left.
But he will.
And then Manafort will be called into a grand jury and compelled to testify with no possibility of immunity. Soon after that he'll be charged by prosecutors in New York and Virginia for violations of state law that Trump can't pardon. He'll likely do between 8 to 12 years.
The same thing will happen each time he uses his pardon power to try to suppress testimony that could implicate him. The charges against everyone indicted so far are stacked 3 layers deep, and even firing Mueller won't stop the process. Cohen has already coughed up enough documents and testimony to fuel litigation in another 5 cases.
Trump and his backers don't fully realize it yet, but they really have no good options left.
Pfuzylogic · M
@BatRinseRepeat
The only option that they do have is to scare us with a Pence presidency. 😂😂
The only option that they do have is to scare us with a Pence presidency. 😂😂
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@BatRinseRepeat Nah, there is more to come. There is more going on behind the scenes than people know about. Trump needs to start with declassifying the FISA warrant. Trump did not know Manafort before the campaign and Manfort only worked about 5 months. I'm going to predict that Trump has an ace up his sleeve and is waiting for the right time to show it, most likely before the midterm elections. Trump knows everything. He has seen the unredacted FISA and other documents. He knows the game they are playing just like the Wolfe guy that was leaking classified material to Ali Watkins. Trump knew about the leak and allowed him to stay 6 months longer to get information on other leakers. Also, rumors Trump has the contents of the Hillary's servers. We will see. Trump is not going anywhere except in office for another 4 years.
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@BatRinseRepeat I don't want a Pence presidency and I hope he does not run after Trumps terms are done. He is a good man but not strong enough to fight the D.C. swamp.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@Pfuzylogic We will see. Who really knows.
Pfuzylogic · M
@LuluLulu
That is one way to assert your point without proof!
That is one way to assert your point without proof!
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@Pfuzylogic Let's see what happens between now and the end of October. If nothing big comes about I will be the first to say I was wrong.
Pfuzylogic · M
@LuluLulu
I am not worried about you saying you are wrong. Justice can be like a fast ball coming at you and there is nothing you can do but pretend it isn’t there. donnie can use some anesthetic because it is going to hurt pretty bad. Let’s hope he has the decency to protect his kids from harm.
I am not worried about you saying you are wrong. Justice can be like a fast ball coming at you and there is nothing you can do but pretend it isn’t there. donnie can use some anesthetic because it is going to hurt pretty bad. Let’s hope he has the decency to protect his kids from harm.
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@Pfuzylogic What exactly do you believe Trump is guilty of?
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@Pfuzylogic Conspiracy, treason, money laundering is only in the MSM. There is no proof of any of it. There is no treason or conspiracy. When have you seen where a person has been investigated when no crime has been committed prior to Trump? This should concern every American. Normally, a crime is committed and then an investigation is completed. This type of B.S. could happen to any of us if it is allowed to happen to Trump. Whether you hate him are not, this is against all our laws for every American. I assure you if any of us was investigated they would find something we have done wrong even if it is simply J-walking. A crime should be committed before any investigation is done. There is no Russian collusion. I would like to hear when the treason and conspiracy happenend.
Pfuzylogic · M
@LuluLulu
I see you are struggling with what is going on with the Mueller investigation.
God bless you because I do believe that you are sincere in your belief in the innocence of donald. You will notice that here is no Republican leadership speaking up for him today whether it is the VP or the Speaker of the House. They have left the president to stew on his own. You will notice the tweets have settled down with the mouth in chief.
He is scared and trying to scare everyone else stating that if he was impeached the the economy would go south. He takes so much credit for the economy and truly believes he deserves a Nobel Prize just like Obama got.
Notice I haven’t mentioned the obvious charge of obstruction of justice. At first it will take an impeachment after the blue wave and then after he is removed from office we will be able to continue with criminal charges.
I see you are struggling with what is going on with the Mueller investigation.
God bless you because I do believe that you are sincere in your belief in the innocence of donald. You will notice that here is no Republican leadership speaking up for him today whether it is the VP or the Speaker of the House. They have left the president to stew on his own. You will notice the tweets have settled down with the mouth in chief.
He is scared and trying to scare everyone else stating that if he was impeached the the economy would go south. He takes so much credit for the economy and truly believes he deserves a Nobel Prize just like Obama got.
Notice I haven’t mentioned the obvious charge of obstruction of justice. At first it will take an impeachment after the blue wave and then after he is removed from office we will be able to continue with criminal charges.
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
@Pfuzylogic Where is the obstruction of justice?
LuluLulu · 61-69, F
Trump and administrations have revoked 800 job kiling/stiffling regulations. We would not have the robust economy we are having if that had not been done. We would still be at a snails pace. Obama was given a Nobel Peace Prize for nothing, absoutely nothing. Even Obama ask how was Trump going to bring back all the manufacturing jobs. Does he have a magic wand? Obama couldn't do it or didn't try. I am getting off here but please tell me where the obstruction is and using Comey's dismissal is not obstruction of justice. What everybody needs to accept is that Trump is president and he has the exact executive powers as those before him.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@LuluLulu I don’t believe that deregulating the factories is a sound decision. I mean, why add more pollution into the air and into our waterways? A lot of the regulations in place was to protect the health and welfare of workers.
I suppose it might be worth a few hundred coal jobs but in the end people will pay a high cost to their health.
I suppose it might be worth a few hundred coal jobs but in the end people will pay a high cost to their health.