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Do you believe Donald trump will win again ?

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
He hasn't stopped winning since he was first elected. The demonrats have nothing but hatred and vitriol.
@hippyjoe1955

The most recent example of his winning, i presume would be the policy that separated infants from their parents to the outrage of his countrymen, his own party and the world in general?

LOL yeah, i imagine with THAT kind of filter it might well appear that he has not stopped "winning".

Join us in reality whenever it's convenient for you...

redredred · M
Could you list the jail-able offenses you could commit that wouldn't separate you from your children? Illegal entry into this country is a jail-able misdemeanor offense. The second time is a felony. @Pikachu
HerKing · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 this winning of which you speak? How is the new, cheaper, better more accessible health provision for all, irrespective of status, wealth and existing health issues going in Congress?
redredred · M
How is it winning if I'm forced to pay for someone else's health insurance? Pay your own fucking way.@HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
@redredred That's the problem. The insurance cartels run the health care, not clinitians. It's why it's screwed up and costs up to ten times as much elsewhere in the west.

And it's good that you live in a microcosm of you.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@HerKing 64% of his election platform has been instituted. Higher than any other president in US history at this time in his presidency and this while overcoming an obstructionist Congress and Senate and Judiciary. Not bad for a non politician with no international experience.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 All of which is irrelevant to the dawning reality of his policies. Tax. Health. Gas and interest rises...and the recession to come.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@HerKing Yawn. I think you would look at the sun coming up and dread the light then watch the sun going down and dread the dark. Time to grow up and put your big girl panties on and realize that for once you have a president that puts the US first. I know that hasn't happened before in your life time but it is a good thing not a bad thing.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 Oh I admire your loyalty to a paper tiger who has zero understanding of the world outside his skin. Please tell us apart from cheating, scams and just general low life shit what experience he has with manufacturing, economics, foreign relations and domestic industry? Roughly.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@HerKing Just as I admire you foolish desire to dissolve your country by voting socialist. I live in a socialist country. It isn't pleasant.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 Oh? When did I say I was doing that?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@HerKing You are that politically oblivious? WOW!!!!!
HerKing · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 Of what? You said I was voting socialist and disolving my country. I'm curious as to how you know either.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@HerKing You are politically oblivious and don't understand what you are voting for. We got it. Move on son you are clueless.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 still didn't answer my question.Did you mean oblivious? Or obvious? Convfee?
redredred · M
It's wonderful living in my self-reliant world, more should try it.Ive paid my own way since I was orphaned at 17. Worked my way through college and grad school and earned a living, raised a family and saved my money.

Clinicians should no more run insurance operations than should musicians run concert halls. They simply haven't got the expertise to run such a business. It would be like having MBAs do surgery.@HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
@redredred But faceless insurance brokers should run health? Who decide who lives and who lives in pain and suffering until death, irrespective to their financial situation, their lifestyle or whether the condition is hereditory. Health doesn't have to be a business, it can be a service, and frankly given the option of an insurance company or a clinician helping me decide my medical treatment, I'll choose the clinician every time.
redredred · M
No one is suggesting insurance companies should manage health but the people who are asked to pay healthcare COSTS should run that piece. You only get to call the tune if you pay the piper.

You go ahead and choose the clinician every time and when the business is in tatters and insolvent, you figure out how to make things work. @HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
But insurance companies DO manage health. And if you go to the insurance company rather than medical staff for your health advice I dread to think who you'd get in to fix a car: A landscape gardener? A hairdresser? A Comcast agent? 😀
redredred · M
No, you're simply wrong. Your health insurance company will pay for some of your health needs but not everything you and your clinician may want to try. Does your car insurance company pay for your tune-ups? Does your homeowners insurance pay to paint your house or mow your lawn? @HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
@redredred To compare a car or the house with the human body to the level of just 'extras' pretty much explains all there is to know about your limited knowledge of how civilized countries value healthcare for their population. Do you live on an island if one somewhere?
redredred · M
Basic intelligence can understand an analogy. Since you obviously cannot, it speaks to your intelligence, or lack thereof.@HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
@redredred Nothing to do with analogies. You'd put an insurance broker above a medically qualified doctor to decide your health needs.. way to go. Lol
redredred · M
No, again you're simply wrong. I put the finances of the matter in qualified hands whereas you would let the ignorant run a financial institution irrespective of their medical degrees. Failure is what you're choosing and you're proud of it. @HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
But insurance companies run a business, therefore their sole prority is their shareholders (and of course paying politicians campaign funds to keep the status quo). Their priority isn't the patient. Never has been.And a hospital isn't a financial institution, at least normal hospitals aren't. If the insurance companies are so financially competent, how is it US health is ranked at about 11th worst compared with comparable countries, and costs the most? By up to 10 times more for equal procedures and prognosis. Someone is making money somewhere.