why don't people vote Independent?

I've never really understood why people don't use their right to vote until now. In the last election between Hilary and Trump, there was such a great divide. Sure, we all have our different beliefs, but why does it always have to be Republican or Democrat? Do we even take the time to research the ideas of Independent Party? I've come to a point where I'm genuinely confused on where to place my vote. I sure don't wan't another 4 years of Trump's ignorance and spreading hate. And I love my gay and transgender friends, but I don't want somebody in charge who will try to ban the Bible or Christian literature because it is 'offensive'. I can no longer support gay marriage and abortion. When people go against homosexuality, oftentimes, it isn't to be cruel, but it is Biblical. God stands against it and want's you to turn away from it because he loves you.

There is such a strong stance on Woman's right's and the right to choose that we are choosing something something that is also against God and does have a lasting effect on women negatively. I know; I'm going through it now. When I was young, I made a devastating decision that tore my life apart. It resulted in shame and guilt, depression, regret, grief and sorrow. Anyone who cares about women and their rights should never allow abortion. It literally takes part of her soul. It takes a life, and that life is part of her. It doesn't fix a problem and hit isn't a solution to an unplanned pregnancy. It is something that is forever ingrained in her mind as a reminder of the death and murder of her unborn babies. When women face that decision,usually they have no knowledge of of the aftereffects and the longevity of it.

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

In an election you vote floor the person most likely to change the world according to your set of principles. This requires the person having a reasonable chance winning the election.

Niburu · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]This requires the person having a reasonable chance winning the election.[/quote]
no it doesn't
I am in the 7th district of VA
a few years ago we ousted Eric Cantor

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Niburu you can vote for the man in the moon if you want. It won't do you any good.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Niburu not to mention in the last presidential election Trump was an independent candidate. He owes no favours to the Republican party or the democrats.

Niburu · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955
[quote]@Niburu you can vote for the man in the moon if you want. It won't do you any good.[/quote]
thats the attitude that keeps the 2 party system humming along
support it if you want, I refuse too
for the record I voted for Johnson
which I will never regret

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

I suspect you are not politically active but like to bitch a lot. The problem isn't two parties or three parties or dozens of parties. The problem is people are not engaged an working for their choice of candidate before they become candidate. However in a representative democracy the people need to accept the people's choice and stop whining that there needs to be a wider choice. If you want a wider choice get involved.

Niburu · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]I suspect you are not politically active but like to[b] bitch[/b] a lot. The problem isn't two parties or three parties or dozens of parties. The problem is people are not engaged an working for their choice of candidate before they become candidate. However in a representative democracy the people need to accept the people's choice and stop [b] whining[/b] that there needs to be a wider choice. If you want a wider choice get involved.[/quote]

Do please point out where I am bitching or whining.
Usually there is wide variety of choices on the ballot.
I vote for the best candidate I like based on their platform and what I know of them, be they Republican, Democrat, or Libetarian - I tend to vote Libertarian but not as a set rule.
I have yet to see a Green party candidate I'd vote for.

Throwing unsubstantiated insults my way is not going to sway my point of view btw.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Niburu try reading you post with a clear head.

Niburu · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 So by refuting your point of view I'm whining and bitching?
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Niburu its not my point of view. It is called civics. You accept the people's choice. Spoiled brats who don't accept other people's choices bitch and moan about the system. The US has the best independent president in decades if not in history and snot nosed brat you tries to blame the system. Grow the hell up.

Niburu · 51-55, M

[quote]@Niburu its not my point of view. It is called civics. You accept the people's choice. [/quote]

Where have I indicated I don't accepts the peoples choice?

[quote]Spoiled brats who don't accept other people's choices bitch and moan about the system.
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I have voted within our existing system for the candidates I have liked at no point have I complained about it.
What I have disparadged are people without enough courage to vote for they're preferred candidate.

[quote]The US has the best independent president in decades if not in history and snot nosed brat you tries to blame the system. Grow the hell up.
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Where the fuck do you see me blaming the system for anything?

sweetiepoo · 36-40, F

@hippyjoe1955 yeah, that's true, I don't know what Independents always believe, but I wonder if they will ever have a real shot at winning an election.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@sweetiepoo I don't know if that would even be desirable.there is that little issue with fracturing the electorate into ever smaller segments each demanding their pet project. We see it already with the behaviour of the Democrats and their politics of division.