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BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
[u]Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine: [/u]
“What the administration has decided to do is to separate children from their parents to try to send a message that, if you cross the border with children, your children are going to be ripped away from you. That is traumatizing to the children who are innocent victims. And it is contrary to our values in this country."
[u]Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.:
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"President Trump could stop this policy with a phone call. I'll go tell him: If you don't like families being separated, you can tell DHS, 'Stop doing it.'"
[u]House Speaker Paul Ryan:
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“We don’t want kids to be separated from their parents.”
[u]Former first lady Laura Bush:
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“I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.”
[u]Evangelical leader Franklin Graham[/u]:
"It's disgraceful, and it's terrible to see families ripped apart and I don't support that one bit.”
- So explain yourself wingnut. No real conservatives want any part of this bullshit.
“What the administration has decided to do is to separate children from their parents to try to send a message that, if you cross the border with children, your children are going to be ripped away from you. That is traumatizing to the children who are innocent victims. And it is contrary to our values in this country."
[u]Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.:
[/u]
"President Trump could stop this policy with a phone call. I'll go tell him: If you don't like families being separated, you can tell DHS, 'Stop doing it.'"
[u]House Speaker Paul Ryan:
[/u]
“We don’t want kids to be separated from their parents.”
[u]Former first lady Laura Bush:
[/u]
“I live in a border state. I appreciate the need to enforce and protect our international boundaries, but this zero-tolerance policy is cruel. It is immoral. And it breaks my heart.”
[u]Evangelical leader Franklin Graham[/u]:
"It's disgraceful, and it's terrible to see families ripped apart and I don't support that one bit.”
- So explain yourself wingnut. No real conservatives want any part of this bullshit.
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@BatRinseRepeat Thank you for these quotes. I'd heard them earlier, but they have more impact when you see them all together. Even some Republicans realize the inhumanity of what we are doing. On SW, not so much.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BatRinseRepeat So get the goddamndemocrats to sponsor a bi-partisan law that would remedy some of the problems with the current law. Whoops, forgot, cooperation with Republicans for the good of the country is not permitted. How silly of me to think otherwise. I apologize.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 This isn't a legislative problem, and it certainly isn't a Democratic one. Trump could change the policy before midnight if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
@sunsporter1649
This is [b][u]Trumps[/u][/b] policy, based on executive orders issued over a month ago, and direct orders given to his own Attorney General.
Democrats have got nothing to do with it.
This is [b][u]Trumps[/u][/b] policy, based on executive orders issued over a month ago, and direct orders given to his own Attorney General.
Democrats have got nothing to do with it.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair The hell it isn't a legislative problem. Or should we just make up things as we go along, according to which newspaper report we read first.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@BatRinseRepeat Well said. It is just another diversion tactic from the very real moral issue that he and his supporters refuse to confront.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@BatRinseRepeat Yeah, right, enforcing Clinton's 1995 law has nothing to do with democrats.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 What law specifically calls for parents to be separated from their children? Hint: There isn't one. This is a policy, not a law. Trump can reverse it any time he wants. Another hint: He doesn't care about the children. They are only pawns to be used and discarded for his own purposes.
BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair HR 3610
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Nice try, but that's a law that deals with child trafficking, not families seeking asylum. Not even close.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair And all those adults with children at the border are such loving families, not a ringer in the bunch.
snowbelt · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 I'm sure that most of the families love their children. Most people do. Even Hispanics and minorities.
The fact remains that the existing policy is a deliberate Trump policy to cause damage to children by taking them away from their parents. He alone owns it.
The fact remains that the existing policy is a deliberate Trump policy to cause damage to children by taking them away from their parents. He alone owns it.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@snowbelt How do you tell which child is with which parent? Parents having proper documentation are not being separated from their children. Those without documentation are being separated until verification can be documented.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@snowbelt Bingo.
snowbelt · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 That's baloney. Where did you get that information?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@snowbelt DHS news conference this afternoon.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@snowbelt Of course it was, nothing out of Washington is believable nowadays. Keep tuning in to PMSNBC, you get the straight skinny there, no slanting of the news, just straight reporting.
BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
akindheart · 61-69, F
@BatRinseRepeat the truth is crossing the border is illegal. period. they need to know the consequences. i would give them some food and water and turn the whole bunch out.
BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
@akindheart
It is illegal. And our borders should always be secure.
But what we're doing now to innocent children is another kind of crime.
It is illegal. And our borders should always be secure.
But what we're doing now to innocent children is another kind of crime.
akindheart · 61-69, F
@BatRinseRepeat are we to be held hostage by parents who deliberately send their kids here unattended? did you see the numbers? i am a mother and i have compassion but when is enough enough?
BatRinseRepeat · 31-35, F
@akindheart
I think you're confusing the facts.
The minors involved are [b][u]not[/u][/b] unaccompanied by adults. What's happening now is that parents, [b][u]with their children, [/u][/b]are being arrested for illegal crossing - then forcibly separated and moved to different detention facilities. Kids as young as 4 are being jailed and denied any contact with family members.
Claiming to be "held hostage" by these parents or their children is, frankly, outrageous. If we've come to the point where any of us really believe this is the way to enforce our laws, then no one is safe or free.
I think you're confusing the facts.
The minors involved are [b][u]not[/u][/b] unaccompanied by adults. What's happening now is that parents, [b][u]with their children, [/u][/b]are being arrested for illegal crossing - then forcibly separated and moved to different detention facilities. Kids as young as 4 are being jailed and denied any contact with family members.
Claiming to be "held hostage" by these parents or their children is, frankly, outrageous. If we've come to the point where any of us really believe this is the way to enforce our laws, then no one is safe or free.
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