When is Hillary Clinton going to be charged with a crime?

@MarkPaul the FBI did find classified documents on her private server so IF the DOJ chooses she can be charged for at least that

@MarkPaul lol. Actually what I read was from CNN, CBS and Fox

@Scubaguy027 It was classified AFTER she placed it on her server. So, if they do choose to charge her, it puts an entire long list of people in line for potential charges including Mike Pence, Jared Kushner, James Comey, Colin Powell and I suspect many, many more.

So, instead of rallying around the cry to "lock her up," or "lock them up," or "lock him up," maybe there should just be a clear and non-ambiguous policy, rule, regulation, or law that prohibits the use of personal devices and services for government business.

@MarkPaul first thing. She did receive classified information when it was already classified, try paying more attention to ALL of the news rather than selected sources. If you recall she tried saying she didn't know what the "C" meant, which is absolutely a lie from her because as Secretary of State she would have received numerous security briefings and they always begin with level of classification.

Two- there are and have been policy, protocol AND law governing the handling of classified information at least since 1996 when I enlisted. You want to know how I know that- I had a security clearance while I was in the Navy. Here's a really big shocker, I actually know how this shit works.
As far as the list of names you provided, if any of them violated the law Republican or Democrat, hammer them to the fullest extent the law allows.

@Scubaguy027 The FBI already went though this. Are you dumb? They already cleared her. How many times are we going to go around in the same circle? And, obviously the law isn't adequate to stop the practice or the government supplied devices are not satisfactory. Let's to get to the bottom of the root cause problem instead of trying to lock everyone up because that seems like it would make for interesting TV watching.

@MarkPaul re-read what I wrote and re-read what you wrote and try again.
You are neglecting the fact of what I said concerning the handling of classified material. The DOJ CAN go after her on those charges based on the IG report if they choose to, that is what I am getting at. Personally I don't give a shit if she is charged or not, I really and truly don't care. Again I am simply stating what was released in the IGs report and the options that are there.

As far as the law being adequate concerning this, the law is just fine and very very clear on this. The issue are those that WILLINGLY violate said laws. As I stated, I had a clearance and know exactly what I am talking about when it comes to protocol with this. I went through many security briefs and dealt with classified information almost daily. Anyone that deals with it knows what to do and the sad reality is there are some that simply don't care and quite frankly if you violate the law you need to be prosecuted.

You mentioned the government issued equipment, it is just fine when issued. In many ways far superior to what you and I can buy, again I know this because I have used it so why anyone would feel the need to have a private server is beyond me.

@Scubaguy027 I just think in your haste to act as a prosecutor you want to dismiss the FBI's findings in favor of the IG report. Even as prosecutor for a day, the final determination was that this is a case that could not be won and that doesn't change now.

There's too many instances of using private devices for you to casually and definitively declare everything is fine as it is. It's obviously not fine otherwise there wouldn't be so many people trying to skirt the law.

I recommend we amend the policy and procedures for using government issued devices and going forward prevent misuse, misunderstanding, and mistakes like this from happening again.

🍿 @MarkPaul you might as well quit while you think you're ahead@Scubaguy027 get some lol

@MarkPaul as I said I don't care if she is charged, I really don't give a shit about her. The DOJ has the option to charge her based on the IG report, what is so difficult to understand about that?

Rather than amend any of the laws for any classified material, try this instead, enforce the laws that are in place already. As I stated they are WILLINGLY violating the LAW. They are choosing which laws to obey. Hammer those that are violating the law and this shit will stop. I don't care if it is the President or if it is a lowly staffer, the laws NEED to be enforced.

As I also stated there are security briefs that happen with classified material. Again hammer those that CHOOSE to violate the law. The laws are fine, it is the pick and choose nature of enforcement that allows that environment to foster. What is so difficult to understand about that?

@Stargate bite me troll. Go take your rants elsewhere

@Scubaguy027 What is difficult to understand is there must be some reason, as yet unknown even to you, why so many people feel the need to use personal devices. We should find out what the root cause problem is and address it instead of taking your "let's hang them and show them who is boss" Wild West attitude.

@MarkPaul when you have access to high level information you follow the law, protocol and procedure, end of story. If you willingly and knowingly violate the law you need to be punished in accordance with the law. That is reality, that is not the wild west as you put it.

As far as why the need as you put it. I don't care why. I don't at all. There are requirements that must be followed at all times regardless of your personal views and opinions. As I have stated before there are laws in place that govern the handling of classified material. It is not difficult to follow them especially because as I have stated you will be briefed on them.

In all honesty if you had ever had a clearance I guarantee you would be agreeing with me.

@Scubaguy027 Obviously, there's a lot of people who have clearance who don't agree with you. We need to find out why instead of assuming you have all the answers, you have all the solutions, and that you are some kind of dictator.

@MarkPaul seriously, a dictator? Lol funniest thing I have read all day.

Those that violate the security restrictions need to have their clearance revoked and be charged. All of them REGARDLESS of who they are and wether they personally feel the rules do not apply to them. It does not matter Republican or Democrat, left or right or whatever you want to call them. Hell, if my clearance was active and I violated protocol hammer me as well.

@Scubaguy027 Extremism in the name of protocol is no virtue.

@MarkPaul lol ok. Let me try this another way and maybe you will see why my view is the way it is.

I was an Avionics Tech on F/A-18s. RADAR, communications, navigation, weapons, electronic countermeasures and electronic warefare systems were the main ones. Would you be OK if I emailed the frequency to radios to myself? Keep in mind the frequencies are classified? Or what if I emailed the frequency for the jamming system to myself? How about if I took a classified memo home? Is any of that ok or should I be charged?

@Scubaguy027 I think you are trying to be extreme. No, I wouldn't be okay with that. But, that's not what James Comey was doing, not what Hillary Clinton was doing, not what Colin Powell was doing. It was all still technically illegal, but we need to be sensible and apply sense and not be robotic in our actions or in trying to cover-up our humanity.

@MarkPaul technically illegal? Really? No straight up illegal. If someone has classified material on a non secure device, wether it is a phone, a laptop, a desktop, a server, they need to be held accountable for those actions.
This is not robotic in action or covering up our humanity. It is enforcing the law that has been put in place by our government. We do not get to pick and choose what we feel like we need to follow.

@MarkPaul and I was not being extreme. That is what I had access to. Guarantee you that Comey, Clinton, Powell, Rice had access to way more than I did.

Can anyone say what classified information they had?

@Scubaguy027 It's technically against the law to speed 3 miles over the speed limit. But, most cops will let the person go and most won't even stop the person. This crazy and obnoxious obsession with applying the full weight of the law regardless of circumstances is authoritarian at best and disingenuous at worst.

There is some reason that these people with some level of intelligence and certainly knowledge of the law are looking to circumvent it. It's surprising you have no interest in wanting to know why, but instead stand up and shout, "Lock them up" and claim to want to live in an environment that would do such a horrifying thing.

@Scubaguy027 Some people know what classified information to which they had access. I'm not one of them.

@MarkPaul comparing speeding and the handling of classified stuff is pretty idiotic dude. Not even remotely close.

@Harley4Life Speeding can cost lives, genius. It's not a matter to take as lightly as you think (and might do).

@MarkPaul are you really this stupid?

@Harley4Life Are you really this inhumane? I mean in your normal, everyday life?