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Knowledge

I think people should be tested before they can vote.

A simple test. Do you know the 3 branches of govt.

Do you know the issues on the ballot
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
Y'know, the goddamndemocrats spend all day and night complaining how the election was rigged, yet any attempt to clean up the system is met by howls of protest. Wonder how come?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 How would preventing people from being able to exercise their constitutional right to vote help clean up the system? And since the poorly educated were the most likely to vote for trump over every income category, wouldn't that be hurting the goddamrepublicans?
St0ut · 51-55, M
@windinhishair how is this suppress someone’s right? I have to register to excersice my right for a firearm.
This includes a background investigation training all at a significant cost.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair Vote early, vote often. You should see the number of yankees bragging about how they vote in their home district up north and also down here in Florida.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@St0ut People have a constitutional right to vote. There is nothing in there about your intelligence level. If you exclude people on the basis of a "test", you are taking their rights away.
Gwangi · 46-50, M
@St0ut We need even more background checks. Too many people slip through the system. Fuck the cost.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Got a source for your claim? I didn't think so.
St0ut · 51-55, M
@windinhishair people have a right to bear arms. One right is not above another. Y are you for keeping basic civics from a group of people .
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@St0ut Who is keeping people from learning civics? People can learn whatever they want to. No matter what they learn, they still have the right to vote.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair I personally know three married couples who do that, and also one family that owns 5 rental condos and votes 5 times, using the addresses on the rental homes.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 And you can prove that they voted illegally? The states they live in would like to know that. But even if true, that only proves that three married couples and one family voted illegally. Not millions.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair Check the propeller on your beanie, its spinning really fast today. If one person, namely me, can meet 4 different couples while fishin in the evening with the same process, what's the odds there might just be a few more.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 You were told they voted twice, but you don't know that they did. And even if there are a few people that did, it doesn't indicate a widespread problem. Perhaps your friends are the kind of people who enjoy boasting about breaking the law.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair Would it not be an interesting experiment to have the voting rolls in New York and Florida computer matched to see how many duplicates show up?
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Yes, it would. Both jurisdictions should keep their voter rolls up to date to prevent exactly the kind of thing that you have been told people are doing. People voting twice should be charged with a crime.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair Neva gonna happen. No way are the democrats going to allow anything like that to happen, they would lose to many votes, and the illegal voters would cry about only being allowed to vote one time.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 Interesting. I didn't realize the Democrats were in total control in Florida. That must be quite a surprise to the Republican Governor.

Never let a good conspiracy theory go.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@windinhishair Interesting. I did not realize the Republicans are in total control in New York.

Never let a good lie pass unnoticed.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@sunsporter1649 You certainly have plenty of your own lies to select from. In case you haven't noticed, it takes at least two states to have someone voting in multiple states. And when one of those is controlled by Republicans, you can't blame it on the Democrats. The fact (remember those? We used to have them before Trump) is that voter rolls are continually being purged to remove voters who no longer live at a particular address. Can we do a better job? Yes, and we should. But it doesn't result in a massive number of illegal votes, nor are the voter rolls maintained to encourage illegal multiple votes. There is no evidence of widespread fraud.

For the record, Jared Kushner was registered to vote in both New York and New Jersey during the 2016 election. Sean Spicer was registered in both Virginia and Rhode Island. And Steve Bannon, Steve Mnuchin, and Tiffany Trump were all registered in multiple states. Are you saying that they voted illegally multiple times?