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I feel that Trump is doing more harm than good for our country?

How about you?
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Kevin19 · 22-25, M
Employment numbers seem good... foreign relations are going well. Otherwise yeah he isn't helping s whole bunch.

Honestly he's doing far less harm than some people seemed to think.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
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BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@jackjjackson If by "America" you mean the richest 15% then yes. He raised taxes on the working class.

And when the hell did Obama give nukes to Iran? He prevented Iran from getting nukes. Now Trump undid that and made it possible for them to get nukes.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick You haven't been following the news? Obama gave Billions to Iran with no restrictions on how it was spent including making nuclear weapons. In effect Obama gave Iran nuclear weapons. Your tax statement is too silly to respond to.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Despite that the IND prevents Iran from getting nukes? It says, in no uncertain terms, Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.

The tax statement is true. Trump cut the estate tax and eliminated the alternative minimum tax meaning Americans making over $5,000,000 a year pay far less in taxes. Guess who has to make up for that money? The rest of us do.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick The IND does no such thing. Iran has kicked out any and all international inspections and moved their weapons of mass destruction production to Syria. You need a better news source. CNN is fake news.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 What the fuck are you talking about? Have you read the agreement? The very first provision says that the Iranians are not allowed to enrich radioactive material to make nukes. That's the first premise of the deal.

The second premise is that they must allow the IAEA into the nuclear facilities for inspections. And they DID allow them in. Ten times. There's been ten consecutive inspections by the IAEA and all ten concluded that they're not making nukes.

Did you read the reports? Did you read the results of the IAEA's examinations? I'm gonna guess no, because you just said that Iran didn't even allow inspectors into the country.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick People who rely on CNN or MSNBC for news are misinformed. Try doing a bit of research on your own.
melbeacher · 56-60, M
You fucking go girl !!!!
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Yeah I did do my own research, I read the fucking Iran Nuclear Deal and the reports from the International Atomic Energy Agency. I didn't get anything from CNN or MSNBC. I got actual sources for actual facts instead of making up bullshit like you did.

Go read the IND and the reports from the IAEA and come back here to tell me your findings.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick You are spouting CNN MSNBC talking points. Your research is more than a little suspect. lol lol lol lol lol
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 So reading the text of the IND word for word is "CNN MSNBC talking points" and it's "more than a little suspect." You're telling me that reading the provisions of the deal is not a good way to know what the deal is.

Then tell me, how would one acertain what the IND is and does if reading the IND is fake news from CNN?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick You are clueless aren't you? Why would you talk the word of the IND? They have an agenda to promote and you are helping them do it.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 The IND is not a person or organization, it doesn't have an agenda, dumb ass. Go look up a PDF file of the deal. Read it, and while you're at it read the reports by the IAEA after their repeated inspections. Then come back here and tell me what you have learned.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Wow you are even more clueless than I imagined. Yes the IND is not to be trusted because it is seeking to justify its existence even when it is an abject failure.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 You consider preventing the Iranians from getting nukes to be a failure? You WANT Iran to have atomic bombs?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Dearie please. The IND never prevented any country from developing nuclear arms. They are a toothless tiger that spends its time justifying its existence by telling foolish people like you that it is doing great things. Iran laughed at the IND and kept right on building nuclear weapons and used Obama's money to do it.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Iran kept building nukes? Huh, that's funny, they must have done a damn good job hiding it if ten consecutive examinations by the world's leading authority on nuclear enrichment couldn't find so much as a trace of it. How do you figure that the single most knowledgeable organization on the subject of radioactive materials failed to find signs of Iranians producing nuclear weapons, but a geriatric Christian zealot from British Columbia knew all about it?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Yes Iran is still developing nukes!!!! That is the whole point of this thing. IRAN IS STILL BUILDING NUKES!!!! Does any of this sink in with you?
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 And who told you Iran is still building nukes? Because the IAEA and the FAS, both of which are nonpartisan institutions, say there is no evidence of Iran building nukes. So where's your source saying otherwise? Lemme guess, Sean Hannity.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick It wasn't the IND lol. Do a little research and think for a bit. Why would Iran quit developing nukes when its whole goal is to build nukes? Try to understand taqiyya and the whole 10 year promise.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]Why would Iran quit developing nukes when its whole goal is to build nukes?[/quote]

Uhhhhhh because they were given the opportunity to have economic sanctions taken off of them and be given back the money America and Britain stole from them in the 50's after the CIA assassinated their president? That's why.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick You are kidding right? They didn't give up anything to have sanctions lifted including stopping developing nukes. You are extremely naive. Sad.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 I'll ask you again, give me a source that says the Iranians continued producing atom bombs in spite of the deal. Your own country said they were adhering to the deal, the Canadian Nuclear Physics Association confirmed in 2014 that Iran was keeping to the deal.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BlueMetalChick Do your own research you will be a better person for it.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 I did do my own research. The only thing more I could do would be flying to Iran myself. Where did you get your info? I've asked you for a source three times now and you're still ignoring it.