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If It Worked For The USSR Why Not The USA?

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Hey Americans! Since guns are such a bad idea why not just turn them in? Just turn them in! In Russia after the Communists defeated all armed resistance they made it mandatory to hand in weapons of any kind - even swords (what need for a Zorro in the People's Republic?) leaving only the army, KGB, Internal Security, Border Security and Police with guns ... and look how well that worked out! When the Government decided the Ukrainian peasants had too much grain and decided to take it from them all they had to defend themselves were pitchforks and shovels...so millions of Ukrainian peasants could be starved to death or deported to Siberia without the plans of the State interfered with.

So learn from the Soviet Union, Americans! Listen to your Leftist politicians and media speaking to you behind their protective walls of armed security ... line up NOW like good citizens and hand in your guns. Don't make us come and take them ... understood?

Government will take care of you. It promises.
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ladycae · 100+, F
no one is saying get rid of all guns so stop jumping to conclusions and trying to rile people up. in communism, everything was shared. in capitalism, it isn't. two very different forms of economy and 2 very different forms of government.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@ladycae No one? Really?

TIME March 27,2018. Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens: "Repeal the Second Amendment."

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo "Confiscation could be an option...mandatory sale could be an option."

Former US AG Eric Holder "We need to brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way."

Sen. Diane Feinstein interview after passage of your "assault gun" ban: "If I could have banned them all - Mr. and Mrs. America, TURN IN YOUR GUNS - I would have!"

Would you say Australia has a political system similar to the US? And was Obama one of your presidents?

National Review, June 10,2014: Obama Praises Australian Gun Confiscation Law.

You know as much about Communism as you do about the gun debate in your own country. I just referenced the fact that millions of Ukrainians died of STARVATION due to Communist economic policies...Google "Holodomor" and educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself again. The only thing 7,000,000 Ukrainians "shared" under Communism in 1932-1933 was death...including death from cannibalism.
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
@ladycae get rid of all of our guns is EXACTLY what those communist thinking assholes in government are saying and thinking!
I don't understand a lot of the people in this country that think it's going to be a bed of roses with no guns! Wake up!!!
ladycae · 100+, F
@Snuffy1957 yes we have to change people's thinking about guns and yes the 2nd amendment has been entirely compromised. but there will be no mass gun confiscation if you actually read your cites they are talking about assault rifle, not shot and handguns. as for Australia's law, it's interesting how crime dropped to almost nothing. but no one is saying ban all guns but the crazies. if you love your guns so much why aren't you moving to Canada where you can have them. i guess you like the Dylan rooofs and the school shooters and wish more kids were killed! see that is an inflammatory statement. i don't really think that way but we have to stop gun violence. we the best country in the world have the highest gun violence because we have idiots who use them in the wrong way. i have seen trucks with them mounted in the back with assault rifles. why if not to show and be stupid. and that's how innocent people get hurt. responsible gun owns are fine, it's crackpots like you i worry about.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Abrienda This is called individuals having individual opinions and having the right to speak their minds. Why are you so afraid of "free speech," comrade?
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@MarkPaul This is my post...do you see me deleting what she says? Free speech is the right to express your opinion, not the right to have me agree with it or say it isn't ill-informed and silly, which it is both. And the death of 7 million Ukrainians in the "sharing" Communist paradise of the Soviet Union is not an opinion, by the way, snowflake.
ladycae · 100+, F
@Abrienda you have an obvious beef about communism. i get that. but this is not Russia. it can't happen here. it's two different places with two different economies and two very different types of people. stop trying to change the narrative to fit your worldview. you are the communist here no one else. and free speech also does not allow you to scream the loudest to try to intimidate anyone else's opinion. all opinions are valid including yours even if t is very misguided. this is why there is an investigation going on into russia's fiddling with our elections. because we are not russia and we don't like them. i'm glad you at least support that.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Abrienda I'm referring to YOUR message, delicate flower petal. You present what former Justice Stevens, what former Attorney General Eric Holder, etc. say. Those are just opinions... their opinions. That is hardly proof of a government master plan to eliminate gun ownership. What's your next conspiracy theory?
Abrienda · 26-30, F
Looksweehear I know Leftists cannot follow a cohesive line of thought but ladycae said NO ONE was advocating the confiscation of guns in the USA and I provided four examples of fairly important people (one being a recent president...you old enough to remember him are you?)who advocate exactly that. That means I refuted her ill-informed statement.

Now I will type this very slow so you will be able to understand....yeeessss, I think the "opinions" of presidents expressed while in office are important, as they indicate the policy goals they hope to achieve. Do...you...understand? Good.

Conspiracy theories are the stuff of your crowd but I do have one... no one can be as stupid as you appear to be and not be in assisted care so you are actually a conservative pretending to be a Leftist, spouting all their pre-cooked, non-sequitur arguments to make them look even more moronic than usual. If so congratulations...you do sound exactly like a lobotomized member of the Left. If not then put your footies pajamas on, have your mommy make you some nice, hot cocoa, drink it all, and go to sleep. And remember, you are very special.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@ladycae Ahhh...you DO know don't you that the "Russia" of today is NOT the Soviet Russia of before? That I was referring to the Soviet Union/Russia of Lenin and Stalin, not the post-Communist Russia of Yeltsin and Putin?

Actually not all opinions are valid, as yours based on a complete lack of historical knowledge have proven.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Abrienda Oh, Abrienda... Possibly not old enough to remember a recent president, old enough to qualify for assisted care, not old enough to make a hot drink for myself. You really are all over the place aren't you? In case you are wondering why you can't seem to focus, it's the sign of someone desperate who realizes she is over her head in an argument for which she is not prepared to engage in. In other words, I'm calling you stupid.

It's great that you can carry forward the fear rhetoric of the gun manufacturers as an unwitting shill for selling more of their products. No doubt, you have also paid your taxes to the IRS with prepaid iTunes card and are waiting for the delivery of $1 M from that nice Nigerian prince who emailed you. But, back to facts and reality...

There is no master plan to take away guns from responsible, law abiding citizens. Random opinion pieces are just that. It's surprising someone as big and brave as you (must be) is that scared. Gun control is a necessary enhancement to the 2nd Amendment. It will happen as sure as trump will resign within the next year, and that his corrupt Administration will serve as a reminder of what happens when stupid people (like yourself) are allowed to run wild.

Let me know what else I can help you with.
ladycae · 100+, F
@Abrienda actually that was what i was referring to. you don't know as much as you think. for most of my life, Russia [b]WAS[/b] part of the soviet union and comunisim ruled the day there. so stop thinkng know you know everythin 22 yr old and remember that your elders actualy ived through it and know a lot more about it than you learned in books.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@ladycae Age is no indictor of wisdom or intelligence as you have just proven here.

By the way...was it true Napoleon and Josephine did not get along well? I mean you make it sound as if you have lived long enough to have known them personally so my "elder" I thought maybe you could inform me?
Snuffy1957 · 61-69, M
@MarkPaul YOU are an immature, malajusted , moronic Moron if you think government in general is not trying to abolish the Second Amendment and take away all guns!
You're calling her stupid and you don't know anything about her! That just showed me your immaturity shines like the sun!
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Snuffy1957
1. You know (almost) nothing about me.
2. There is nothing in reality, fact, or evidence to indicate, signal, or confirm the government is attempting to abolish the 2nd Amendment and repossess all guns. Nothing.
3. During the Obama Administration your "war cry" was extended to routine and scheduled military exercises by "people" like yourself that it was just a cover to take away gun ownership. That never happened because that was never the plan or even "a" plan. By the way, the world isn't coming to an end today or anytime soon either.
4. Some "people" (like yourself) feel comforted by backing themselves into this victim wall where you convince yourselves the government or people like me are out to get you. That's generally called being crazy. Others refer to it as being stupid. Can we agree it's at least silly?
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@MarkPaul No...I am dealing with two people one of whom has shown by his over-inflated ego his gross immaturity (I mean you of course) and someone else who thinks she is old enough to have had tea with Marie Antoinette. Now I see you also suffer from PTDS -President Trump Derangement Syndrome. If you really believe what you just wrote then you are a bigger idiot than I thought, which I admit surprises me because I didn't think that was possible.

However I will show you mercy. At your age and maturity level it must be a real threat to your manhood to let someone especially a girl have he last word so to save your self-esteem I will allow you a free reply without response. Feel better now? Good.

Enjoy what remains of your life outside a psychiatric ward because with your psychosis when your President Trump starts his second term that is where you will certainly be. Bye-bye!

PS ~
Looking forward to your reply to prove me right.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Abrienda It seems you have a problem with anyone who challenges your ideas of what is taking place now and what will happen in the future. I have run into people like you. About 30% of the population is like you. So, at least there's that (for you).

You fear guns will be taken away from you because that fear gives meaning to your life. Regardless of what happens in future elections, your fear will be the only thing guiding you forward. How does that feel?
Abrienda · 26-30, F
😚 @MarkPaul Thank you for proving me right!

As for fear this is my SECOND year working as a nurse in Saudi Arabia...want to match being a Western woman working in a hospital in Saudi Arabia against what ever you are and whatever you are doing in the United States?

How does THAT feel, loser?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Abrienda You're welcome. I am at your service. Perhaps one day, as you collect some life experience from around the world you will realize owning and pointing a gun still doesn't give you the power and influence to single-handedly determine what is right and wrong.

Being a nurse is a noble profession. Doing it to help others is commendable. Doing it so you have something to throw in people's faces when they challenge you is a questionable motive. Are you sure you are helping people in Saudi Arabia for the "right" reasons?
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@MarkPaul You helped save anyone's life? I have. More than once. If you had any shame in you, you would feel it now.

I think you have just shown better than I could what kind of person you are.

You are enough beneath contempt. I have nothing more to say to you. But do continue showing what kind of thing you are.
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ladycae · 100+, F
@Abrienda interesting you deleted his comment. and yet you say we are communists. hahahahahahahah
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Abrienda · 26-30, F
@ladycae Yes...the post was deleted as it had nothing to do with the topic and was nothing more than a vicious personal attack. If you were the victim of such an indecency I would do the same for you. That's how I run my threads

Now...laugh at that.
ladycae · 100+, F
@Abrienda and again, how very commie of you. they always control what people see and hear.
ladycae · 100+, F
@Abrienda hahahahahahahahahaha