do you think people on welfare shouldnt vote?
in all honesty. i dont think they should...
22-25, F
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Graylight · 51-55, F
Those on welfare have the same right of citizenship as anyone else. Because someone's having enough trouble that they require the assistance of the government charged with protecting their general welfare makes them no less worthy of opinion and thought.
And they [i]do[/i] have a vested interest in where money is allocated; they're the ones actually using the programs.
Contrary to what popular US culture would teach us, requiring and accepting help is not a sin, not a crime and makes no one less a citizen or human. The first thing we have to collectively do is erase this popular - and very inaccurate - myth that the majority of those on welfare are living the easy life. Welfare will not support a family and it has some very stringent requirements.
Maybe if we offered a helping hand instead of the back our hands, we could elevate everyone enough to allocate tax money to other uses.
And they [i]do[/i] have a vested interest in where money is allocated; they're the ones actually using the programs.
Contrary to what popular US culture would teach us, requiring and accepting help is not a sin, not a crime and makes no one less a citizen or human. The first thing we have to collectively do is erase this popular - and very inaccurate - myth that the majority of those on welfare are living the easy life. Welfare will not support a family and it has some very stringent requirements.
Maybe if we offered a helping hand instead of the back our hands, we could elevate everyone enough to allocate tax money to other uses.
PiceousPanda · 22-25, F
@Graylight requiring ad accepting help isnt the priority if it hurts us long term. this is my huge issue with this let give muh help. lets help but not through this way. this will drag us down. we have to help our nation first. we have no money to spend on these people. all the money given to them is borrowed! were in debt lady and people like u dont help the istuation. its a bubble that will pop and when it does we will ALL want help and we wont find it
Graylight · 51-55, F
@PiceousPanda Want to save money and help the nation? Then we need to reduce institutionalized racism, which leads to poorer living conditions, greater poverty and less education. When we leave people on their own to raise children despite their obvious lack of various resources, we inherit that child as an adult. Poverty is a generational issue and only planning for future generations can it be stemmed.
Want to help the nation? We need jobs and job training. Instead of people bitching about industries that are dying, they can help form programs that ready people for transitions and new technologies. And for every loud voice complaining about jobs being "shipped overseas," there are five people who'll demand the lowest prices, the best quality, the biggest bang for the buck. 'Made in the USA' costs money. A lot of money.
Taking welfare away does nothing but further ill equip citizens who - whether we like it or not - are part of our community. Planning for and ensuring success can lessen the need.
Want to help the nation? We need jobs and job training. Instead of people bitching about industries that are dying, they can help form programs that ready people for transitions and new technologies. And for every loud voice complaining about jobs being "shipped overseas," there are five people who'll demand the lowest prices, the best quality, the biggest bang for the buck. 'Made in the USA' costs money. A lot of money.
Taking welfare away does nothing but further ill equip citizens who - whether we like it or not - are part of our community. Planning for and ensuring success can lessen the need.
PiceousPanda · 22-25, F
@Graylight so to help society we need to change our social issues and that will help our economy... makes sense. im done with u lady. goodluck
PiceousPanda · 22-25, F
@Fernie thats a false statistic. i actually am looking at the spending budget and it does not look like that. actually give me a statistic not a meme
Fernie · F
@PiceousPanda If you are including Medicare and Medicaid...that is EARNED mony...MY MONEY i paid in the 52 years of working. It's NOT the governments money. They steal it from us to buy weapons and tanks and planes and ships that WE DO NOT NEED! You're so fekking wrong and confused and most likely one of todays cold hearted, souless, out of touch, drank the hatorade republicans
PiceousPanda · 22-25, F
@Fernie medicare and medicaid? ma'am please look at the actual soending budget. not a fucking meme
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Fernie It's no use. At such a preciously young age, Ms. PiceousPanda has far surpassed others with her wisdom and experience in matters of government. It might've been that Intro to Economics class or Poli-Sci for Freshmen. I mean, the thought of addressing societal issues with the aim of a more efficient economy, c'mon...charts and figures echoed by a Pulitzer Prize nominated agency like National Priorities Project? Silliness.
We live in a new age where truth isn't what is; it's what you want it to be.
We live in a new age where truth isn't what is; it's what you want it to be.
PiceousPanda · 22-25, F
@Graylight im sorry if u would like to prove me wrong with uodated evidence not a MEME. i wasnt in a political class. i learned this on my own through research
Graylight · 51-55, F
Well, then, by all means... Here's some "research" for you, free of memes, charts, numbers or pesky facts. Sourec: EconoFact, a non-partisan publication preenting facts and incisive analysis to the national debate on economic and social policies. Launched in January 2017, it is written by leading academic economists from across the country and published by the Edward R. Murrow Center for a Digital World at The Fletcher School at Tufts University:
Spending on cash and near-cash transfer programs to low-income families comprises less than 5 percent of the federal budget. These programs are not drivers of increased government spending.
The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), which is one of the nation's largest anti-poverty programs, offers limited assistance to non-working able-bodied individuals without dependents. In 2015 the federal government spent $76.1 billion on SNAP, slightly more than 2 percent of total federal outlays, providing food vouchers to an average of 45.8 million individuals a month. Average monthly benefits per person in 2015 were $126.81 (data available through the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
The federal government had SSI program outlays of $52.3 billion in 2015 – comprising 1.42 percent of federal outlays.
So yes, military spending comprises much, much more of the federal spending than do social welfare programs. The government is designed to account for both, as caring for citizens is the very point of its structure.
Now, being such a picky researcher who demands sources - and then different sources when you don't like the info - we'll go ahead and wait patiently for your citations...
Spending on cash and near-cash transfer programs to low-income families comprises less than 5 percent of the federal budget. These programs are not drivers of increased government spending.
The Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), which is one of the nation's largest anti-poverty programs, offers limited assistance to non-working able-bodied individuals without dependents. In 2015 the federal government spent $76.1 billion on SNAP, slightly more than 2 percent of total federal outlays, providing food vouchers to an average of 45.8 million individuals a month. Average monthly benefits per person in 2015 were $126.81 (data available through the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
The federal government had SSI program outlays of $52.3 billion in 2015 – comprising 1.42 percent of federal outlays.
So yes, military spending comprises much, much more of the federal spending than do social welfare programs. The government is designed to account for both, as caring for citizens is the very point of its structure.
Now, being such a picky researcher who demands sources - and then different sources when you don't like the info - we'll go ahead and wait patiently for your citations...