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Is anyone “morally fit” to be president?

Seriously... if lying makes one morally unfit for presidency, let’s all revile in the epiphany that we are all doomed to anarchy!

Hooray!
lorne13 · 61-69, M
Its the narcissism, racism, and the contempt for almost everyone that make the Orange Asshole unfit
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@lorne13 hostile.
lorne13 · 61-69, M
@GardenSage an inconvenient truth
GardenSage · 36-40, M
There’s something oxymoronic about calling someone a racist and also adding that he is an “orange asshole” @lorne13
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The President is just a chosen leader voted in. Morals can be a bit subjective and in an election I would say they tie back to the voters more so than the leaders. I'd say a President is only as morally fit as the people that elected him.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Everyone lies. Who can say they can pass judgment on someone. Nobody is perfect.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
As a rule, the moderately immoral tend to advance further in politics. The best case is that the candidate uses their moderate immorality for the benefit of the nation. If they do that, it's basically condoned. If they don't then it's they're simply not useful.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Do propose that the best "government" is anarchy? It is amazing me sometimes that the American "experiment" in a democratic republic has lasted as long as it has. A decay into a anarchistic society would prove the end of this experiment.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
As a manager or a leader, would you lie to those who have put their trust in you?

Hey, are you that guy in Seinfeld? 😜
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@SimplyTracie I think that we don’t think of ourselves as liars, but we all lie. There’s no transparency in a work environment or in the military. People lie to their friends and family every day. We all do. You included.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@GardenSage Yes maybe by omission or maybe to be kind only.
Yep ... the only qualification is voter approval.
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swirlie · 31-35, F
No, not really. That is why the whole concept of 'President' should be dropped from democratic governance. The US Presidency is as close to a dictatorship as Putin is to Russia and Assad is to Syria. All 3 are basically one-in-the-same, in that one person gets to decide all by themselves either permanently, or through Executive Order. Either way, it's all the same outcome.

That is why Putin is quoted as saying, "Democracy is a farce'. He is actually correct.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@SimplyTracie

Yes it does! It says that anyone who has a genuine 'need' to honor such Leaders or has a similar 'need' to honor the person-Elect who holds the title of President within a democratic governance for example, are people (or honorees) who believe they can extract energy or power they so desperately need from 'idols' which those honorees pre-assign the role of 'great provider of power' to their idols.

In other words, honorees can make a concrete statue of a guy on a horse mounted under a tree in a public park have as much power as they perceive the statue should inherently contain within their own minds; or they can assign a Supreme Leader to have as much power as they themselves feel they should be able to extact from that Leader in an effort to serve and therefore uplift their own inadequate sense of social unworthiness.

By then extracting that imagined 'power' from those 'idols' through an honoree's social association with those same idols, it connects those honorees through an imagined sense of self-perceived 'default' TO that higher imagined power in a way far greater than what those honorees could create of their own volition.

In other words, those honorees are in a constant state of 'worthiness deficit' and can never be fulfilled, remaining forever in that state of craving but never actually achieving that ultimate 'high' they so long for from the experience.

So-called 'groupies' for example, who follow rock-bands around the world but are not actually part of the band, yet do nothing but party and carouse with band members back stage or ..wherever, are actually utilizing the same described 'modus operandi' to seek the imagined 'power' they so strongly desire by mere association with a high-ranking, or very popular rock band.

Those whom therefore honor Presidents and Supreme Leaders, even if it costs them their souls in the process, are really part of a 'peasants club', whereby those honorees gain a self-perceived higher social status to their meager lives which is justified by the visually-conveyed amount of overwhelming support they can publicly demonstrate they give to such idols, which of course is nothing but a peasantry way to show the world they are part of what they perceive to be, a members-only President's Club.

The only difference from a reality perspective however, is that the Supreme Leader doesn't actually give a shit about them because he doesn't actually know them AT ALL and therefore, does not make any attempt to include those apparent faithful honorees on his annual Christmas Card list.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@swirlie And yet they continue to feed their leaders ego.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@SimplyTracie

Ah yes! But only if their Leader feeds THEIR ego's first!

If their Leader does not fill the bill sufficiently to appease their ego's needs, then the Leader can no longer serve them from that idolic capacity.

At that point, the Leader can be turned-on by the people he is serving, possibly killed. This is precisely what Putin was extremely worried about prior to his own re-election, which of course was falsely won.

There is a very strong movement in Russia right now, to oust Putin because he is perceived by his former honorees, to be a lame duck. This is because Putin does not know 'how' to appease the ego-needs of his people's desire to idolize a strong and worthy Leader. Putin does not know what 'strong and worthy' looks like.
MethDozer · M
Politician has always been a code word.for.professional liar and manipulator. That's what their job is and always has been. When someone says "he/she is a good politician" what they are saying is "I excuse their lies and manipulations because I believe their ends justified the means."

 
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