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Do trump supporters know he really isn't the savior type person he claims to be or...

Do they really believe he's a successful businessman who is tough as nails, a self-made man of principle who identifies with working people, is draining the swamp, and cares about the future of the USA?

If possible, limit the bias in your answers. And, no insults. Oh... and no cliches.

Sorry... just one more thing... no conspiracy theories.
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Cease · 26-30
Of the 7 I know for sure voted for him, 6 would basically say so that he’s a savior though not in that specific language. (Well the more religious ones would)

•step cousin, collage frat boy who drinks too much who his mother pays for everything,

•step-grandmother well-off military wife in her 70s that believes everything Fox says

•step uncle in her 50s that who has a porsch, large house on a golf course and file bankruptcy, telling his wife last minute

•step sister’s step brother younger than me and works with cars, has a job while his father has been unemployed for years and his father and step mother kinda use him

•Puerto Rican great aunt Jew for Jesus who likes/can tolerate me better than my dad, cousin, and sister because they’re much darker than me

•aunts 3rd husband who doesn’t like immigrants even though teeter on stuff racist towards Mexicans even though my cousin is married to someone who’s a Mexican immigrant

•brother in law close to my age, from the country, works in a factory

The first 3 I said heard talk on Easter that he’s a good president because the stock market was up, and he cut taxes and he’s being witch hunted with Stormy Daniels and Bill Clinton wasn’t innocent either, and damn Hillary was terrible. The one uncle I over heard them tried to justify the “shit hole countries comment” to my step dad by saying Africa has never had a successful nations in history, which I thought I was mishearing at first. My brother in law voted for Trump, regrets it, I don’t know his specific reason for either.

I’d like to know all of their rationale for voting for him but family/opposing politics don’t mix well.
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Cease · 26-30
Insulting to them? It’s not neutral description but it, sometimes unfortunately, is true. It’s yet unuanced and not summation of character and I never claimed it to be and I don’t owe them a bio, or neutral or shining description while talking about them anonymously. And I didn’t say they were bad. I just listed who I know and what I find striking. I didn’t insinuate that they weren’t or were upstanding Americans, whatever that even entails or means.

How did you even know they’re “upstanding”; all you can gather from it is that they’re Americans of voting age if you wanna just strip my description to just family position and age.
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Cease · 26-30
Really? So who you voted for can be a determining factor in whether you’re an upstanding American or not??? How wonderfully simple and simply fallacious.
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Cease · 26-30
Well, that doesn’t explain:
Voted for Trump=Upstanding Citizen. Doesn't follow.

Just as there are Trump lovers that are intolerable jackasses. And I’m sure you’ve interacted with obnoxious haters. But are they intolerable because they hate him or intolerable because the reasons they hate him?
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Cease · 26-30
@TotalMiss How?

Again: does not follow. No reason or explanation there. And you ignored my question so I guess you’re just going off your feelings.
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Cease · 26-30
@TotalMiss

I gave no reason or explanation for what? And you didn’t ask me what to explain if anything. The only thing you could’ve indicated that I explain is why my listing seemed insulting. I explained why it’s not that serious. Which instead of objectingor disagreeing initially, you focus on my question and answer with a non sensible claim. Or did you want me to explain further on why I said that you’re just going off your feelings; right before that I said you didn’t answer my question. A question which would lead to you admitting you just find them intolerable without giving merit to their reason for hating or lead the the merit of that hate which leads to morals, policy, and principle that’s nearly indefensible on his part.

And you gave me another reason to think your claims are based only off feelings: instead of responding to my saying “You have no reason or explaination there” and taking the opportunity to show that you do have one, and prove me wrong, you say “You have no reason or explaination either”. It’s childish and silly. As if you know your claims are substancless non sequiturs.

So again:

•Voted Trump=Upstanding citizen
How?

•Trump Hater=Intolerable Jackass
How? Does the reason for hate have merit?

My tack? My tack for the purpose of what?
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Cease · 26-30
So your question is: Why did I randomly disparage everyone who voted for Trump?

Answer: I didn’t. I listed [b]7[/b] people and you got triggered and thought I make a summation of nearly half the American population? Are you serious?

[u]Again[/u]:

•Voted Trump=Upstanding citizen
How?

•Trump Hater=Intolerable Jackass
How? Does the reason for hate have merit?

•My only tack
For the purpose of what?
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Cease · 26-30
Now you change it from “everyone who voted for Trump” to “everyone I definitely know”. At least acknowledge you were being deliberately or mistakenly obtuse or unclear.

Back to my first reply to you:
[quote]It’s not neutral description but it, sometimes unfortunately, is true. It’s yet unuanced and not summation of character and I never claimed it to be and I don’t owe them a bio, or neutral or shining description while talking about them anonymously. And I didn’t say they were bad. I just listed who I know and what I find striking.[/quote]

I’m sure you’d show the same concern if I made a list of the Clinton voters: The alcoholic in “I am woman, hear me roar” mode, the hypochondriac that had a marriage last 6 months and every sliver of well rounded academia fell out her brain after high school, the brutish yet oversensitive BLM 3rd wave feminist, the most high maintenance princess that I’m surprised that I’m suprise she accepted a diamond smaller than a fist, the one too autistic to be normal not autistic enough to be particularly good at anything. Right?


[u]AGAIN[/u]
•Voted Trump=Upstanding citizen
How?

•Trump Hater=Intolerable Jackass
How? Does the reason for hate have merit?

•My only tack
For the purpose of what?
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Cease · 26-30
@TotalMiss

’I attack Trump voters to justify my seething hate of democracy’ is what you think.
-Well, one, I didn’t attack. Two, I don’t hate democracy, I think it’s generally the best form of government. That idea of your’s doesn’t follow.

Yes, I know you contend those things, you said them already, which is why I’ve been asking “HOW”...

And AGAIN
•Voted Trump=Upstanding citizen
How?

•Trump Hater=Intolerable Jackass, Worthless Fool
How? Does the reason for hate have merit?

•”I attack Trump voters because I hate democracy.”
How does that follow if that were even true which it isn’t?

•You’d show the same concern if someone was doing the same thing with a listing of Clinton voters. Right? Or are you just concerned with [i]your[/i] base looking bad?
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Cease · 26-30
@TotalMiss Now you’re from ‘I insulted’ to ‘I attacked’; [i]viciously[/i] no less. The tale is just getting taller and taller. Soon you’re gonna have me assaulting them.

So, you say:
‘I viscously attacked Trump voters
(which, again, I didn’t)
because I hate democracy
(which, again, I don’t)
and because I’m mad
(which I’m not)
that a god
(which I don’t believe in)
didn’t make me queen
(which I don’t want to be),
of America
(which isn’t a monarchy).’

Absolutely none of that follows. Come on dude, ‘insulted’ is one thing you can make a case for, but ‘viciously attacked’ is another. If I hated democracy, I would hate people for the fact they votedat all no matter who it was they voted for, not just one candidate. I can’t be mad at that when I don’t believe in a god and I don’t wish to be a leader of any sort. (It would be a president as opposed to a queen but I guess you think your god can do anything, but I digress)


Again:
•Voted Trump=Upstanding citizen
How?

•Trump Hater=Intolerable Jackass, Worthless Fool
How? Does the reason for hate have merit?

•You’d show the same concern if someone was doing the same thing with a listing of Clinton voters. Right? Or are you just concerned with your base looking bad?
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