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Do trump supporters know he really isn't the savior type person he claims to be or...

Do they really believe he's a successful businessman who is tough as nails, a self-made man of principle who identifies with working people, is draining the swamp, and cares about the future of the USA?

If possible, limit the bias in your answers. And, no insults. Oh... and no cliches.

Sorry... just one more thing... no conspiracy theories.
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ajsk13 · 51-55, M
why do you think they are trying to remove him from office? the deep state wants the corruption to remain the same..A perfect example did you see the recent story reported by a recently ex congressman concerning the hack from the inside of congress that had been going on from 2007 to 2016 ? one of the culprits recently arrested at the airport trying to flee back to Pakistan after wiring $300,000.. the inspector general reported it to congress. it was completely covered up for the 2016 election...ex DNC chair congresswoman Debbie shultz let them in without a check of their background and it turns out the family is a bunch of felons sending classified info to Pakistan ? The left hates a republican president as the sheriff is back in town trying to clean up the mess... it's happened 3 times now in my lifetime
BelEsprit · 26-30, F
@ajsk13 Cite your source. The OP requested no conspiracy theories.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@ajsk13 "Real" Republicans hate trump too... and not because they object to a real working man being in the White House... and not out of a love for the swamp. It's because trump ISN'T a working man... he isn't draining the swamp. trump is as corrupt as the people you claim YOU can't stand. And, yet you stand for trump.

The left may hate a Republican president. The right most likely hates a Democrat president. And, anyone with any self-esteem, a little bit of education, and sense of moral (or religious principles) despises trump because he is self-serving, immoral, corrupt, and doesn't care about the USA or the world.

So, who does love trump? The uneducated. And who does trump love (beside himself and 1 of his daughters)? The uneducated. Remember when he said, "I love the uneducated." That means the people who lack education.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@TotalMiss trump is refreshing to you because it makes you feel like you "stuck it to authority." It is more a reflection on how you feel you have been ignored and taken for granted by authority (aka, the establishment). trump is just as corrupt as the RNC and the DNC. He is just as self-serving. He is not for the little man and there is nothing in his background, his actions, or his deeds that suggest he cares about anything but his own self-interests. Who does that sound like?

Right! The RNC and the DNC. trump is like a "new and improved" label that for those who take the time to read the label learn, except for the packaging, it's exactly the same as the original product. Yet, it still "feels" new, improved, and yes refreshing. Isn't marketing amazing? By the way, have you tried the new and improved Crest toothpaste or Tide detergent?
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@TotalMiss It's pretty clear, despite my extreme warnings to you... my pleadings to you not to do it... you have swallowed the "Kool-Aid." Oh @NearMiss.... why... oh why didn't you listen?

The evidence of corruption behind trump's policies, the emptiness of his rhetoric, and the lies... oh... the lies... is right there out front. What is so fascinating is, like any professional con artist, trump let's us know he is lying. But, sadly, whether it's Bernie Madoff, the Nigerian General with multimillions to give anyone who responds to his spam emails, or the CRS scammers who offer the convenience of paying our tax bill with iTunes cards, about 30% of the population of any local or national community buy into the lies because they simply choose not to think.

In the business, it's what we call acting stupid by not thinking (ASBNT).
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@TotalMiss We have already been through the corruption of his policies. I'm not falling for your busy-work rehash of past arguments. Re-read the transcripts, dating back at least a year (except for that one from that asshole who took offense to both of us and deleted only our posts).
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@TotalMiss [sigh]... Your precious wall... his policy that included Mexico paying for it... was corrupt.... "Who's going to pay for the wall...?" he asked time and time and time again. And, each time you proudly stood up in your pj's and screamed to the consternation of your neighbors, no doubt, "Mexico." EXCEPT... he never had a plan to have Mexico pay... they never were going to pay for it, and they clearly are not paying for it. That's corrupt no matter how much you want to claim that's not corruption. It is corruption when you claim something that you know is not going to happen (dishonest or unethical conduct).

You LOVE to talk about how is lit the economy on fire. He's done that by expanding the national debt to unprecedented levels. Anyone, under any conditions, can excite the economy with reckless abandon on spending discipline. But, like gamblers with no self-discipline, corrupt bankers (have you ever heard of Wells Fargo?) who cook the books, at some point the bills do come due. He knows that. You know that. The world knows it. But, some of "us" are denying it.

There are literally millions more corruption examples that extend throughout his Administration, his past business practices, his false claims about his capabilities, etc. But, you can't convince someone their savior isn't a savior if she wants her savior to be real while denying he's her savior. I think you know what I mean. And, I think you remember that asshole who deleted only our posts.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@TotalMiss You have a personal definition of corruption that conveniently negates anything that applies as corruption. So, your arguing is just silly. It's pretty clear you will contort yourself in any way, shape, and form to defend trump because he represents what you want reality to look like either out of your own boredom, personal amusement, or some sense that you now have been empowered like Ivanka and Jared.

"Dishonest or unethical conduct" represents corruption and those words apply in practically everything trump has touched as both a failed businessman and as president.

You go find the past transcripts of our past discussions during the past 1+ year (except for those that were under the administrative control of that asshole who deleted only our messages. I'm certain you remember her). The evidence of corruption is in those transcripts. Make the effort. Do the work. And, set yourself free.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@TotalMiss Well, yeah, I don't like him. Just like I didn't (and still don't) like that sanctimonious asshole who went out of her way to only delete the posts from only you and me. I'm sure you remember her.
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