Why do 'Palestinians' think they own the land where Israel sits?

@MethDozer Had what taken? No state of Palestine ever existed, yes?

@UkBull Their homes and land. The Jews left it in antiquity.

@MethDozer If by "left" you mean "deported by Assyrians after conquest" you'd be correct. Then there was the Roman Empire, the Byzantines, the Ottoman Empire, etc etc, then The Brits who put them back in there. The Palestinians refused to have them and declared war. The dance never stopped, but they did slow down when Israel whooped that ass in the 60's. Now it's "please help" *launches RPG into apartment complexes* "Israel is attacking us"

If we are to go back to the 600's and before then no nation on Earth has a legit claim to it's current existence then. The 600's are not relevant in the here and now.

Israel commits much more death and human rights violations than their "enemy". Butb that's okay because the Palestinians aren't human. Eh?

@quietlitany Let's see the UN kick you off your land and hand it over to A bunch of Syrian refugees and see if you don't pick up some arms to defend it.

@MethDozer Naturally, conquest does that, but Jews have been in that area. They remained nearby as well and did indeed live in Palestine during the Crusades. They just didn't have power. The Brits who did have legitimate claim of the land, imported more Jews. They had to figure it out, they didn't. Jews have always had a legitimate claim to that land, just like how we give Reservations to Natives. The difference would be the Muslims want to murder all the Jews and/or subjugate them, per the Quran and Hadiths.

Sure they do. It's a war. Palestinians allow Hamas to continue waging that war. They use dead babies as propaganda. I don't feel bad for people who declare war and get their asses kicked, but still want to keep fighting. Israel has the right to exist. History didn't start at 1949.

@quietlitany Under your logic Jews should be forced to live in shitty reservations with limited resources or funding on tainted and b grade land. Not vice-versa.

You're really fucking up here.

@MethDozer No, that's not my logic, sorry you inferred that, my logic is the Jews have claim to the land, they got power in 1949. The Muslims rejected this. War has been on since 1949. It came to a head in 1967, but the Jews defeated all the armies and was set to invade Egypt, until the world said stop. Israel has the right to exist and it would behoove the Palestinians to accept and embrace it.

I would be fucking up if that was my point, but it wasn't.

@quietlitany You said:" The Brits who did have legitimate claim of the land, imported more Jews. They had to figure it out, they didn't. Jews have always had a legitimate claim to that land, just like how we give Reservations to Natives."

Ergo my deduction is fact based on your stated input.
How does failure to keep up with your own bullshit feel?

@UkBull No Palestinian state ever existed except thousands of years ago. In the last century the people who call themselves Palestinians were living in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other states. They have been thrown out of every state they ever lived in and then the UN created the state of Israel and suddenly they decide oh, that's mine. Bullshit. Even other middle eastern people don't want to live with them.

@MethDozer Britain governed this area under a League of Nations mandate from 1920 to 1948.

We gave the natives land, because they had a claim to it. We didn't wipe them out after our war. The Jews have a claim, Brits gave it to them, albeit more than what we gave natives. The Muslims hate Jews, war ensured.

The comparison is used to show how gov't will bequeath things. The and was bequeathed to Jews by the Brits who had the land under a league of nations mandate. The Jews didn't steal shit. Its not so much my failure as it is your emotional overreaction to the topic.

Furthermore, you started this with comparing US to Natives. I was drawing an example from your point of view.

@quietlitany Your example is shit though. Who the fuyck were the Brits to have any say?

You really need to learn your Native American and US history as well.

@MethDozer Well, then don't compare the US/Natives to the UK/Jews/Arabs then. The say of a powerful world class military, you know the thing that destroyed the Israeli Kingdom, established Rome, etc, that's who.

You want to talk about Jews or Natives? Cuz you're hopping back and forth.