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How should US women react as Las Vegas is a feminist issue.

So many women victims. There is no way a woman would have done that! Imho was a gender specific crime like so much violent crime is. So Las Vegas is a feminist issue.
@Firespirit That smile 😂
SW-User
Omg if it isn't political or race now it has to be gender.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Melissa1101
well it struck me how many women's faces were shown amongst the victims and I just thought how no women ever pull this sort of stunt.
best wishes
:)
SW-User
@sogdianrock I don't think he was choosing his victims. He was spraying bullets randomly into a crowd. He did not care who he killed as long as the number was high.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Melissa1101
I agree the shooter was not targeting women specifically - yet he was a man and only men carry out these types of mass shootings and it is inconceivable a woman would do so. I am not saying this is solely a feminist issue but it has significant feminist dimensions. For example: male lack of empathy, random projection of power and anger. You tell me!
best wishes
:)
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I have never thought about it this way but I guess you are right.

Most violence of any kind, from domestic abuse to international war, is done by men. Patriarchy is a huge power structure which is hidden in plain sight.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
bye OllyOxenFree
:)
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@FearfulHarmonyReborn How can you block sogsianrock, he is the nicest person on here?

Go back to your echo chamber.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Burnley123 ·
Thanks. I am proud that you find me so.
Feminism is a paradigm changer and I think that is why advancing it, as a framework to examine a specific event like Las Vegas, can be disturbing.

Plainly as OilyOxenFree never enjoyed my company he did the right thing!
Best wishes
:)
littlepinklotus · 41-45, F
oh Lord don't rile the feminists....
SW-User
@littlepinklotus Silly comment frankly. And he is a feminist
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi OllyOxenFree
haha I feel a bit miffed!
Bestw ishes
:)
@sogdianrock She has me blocked.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi OllyOxenFree
I am shocked!
Bestw ishes
:)
JackLondon · 51-55, M
Yes that's the main reason that crime was committed, a penis, you've nailed it there.
BAN THE PENIS !
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi JackLondon
creative thinking! Of course a machine gun isn't a penis but figuratively it does match rather frighteningly.
best wishes
:)
Cierzo · M
Tell me you are being ironic.
Otherwise, thank you for your contribution to make the world a more divided and worse place.
Huh? To make it a sexist issue would take that the shooter was deliberately going after women. There has been no such evidence this far. I think this might be a jump conclusion. The issue will be about access to weapons if any besides the tragedy itself.
@sogdianrock
I made my reply for your question. @SW-User has chosen to participate inside my pat of the thread and I am therefore also replying her inside here. You will be able to see whom I address when as I always use the @ function to tag the person I reply.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi SapphicHeart
ok thanks for clarification. Literature is always welcome to comment as I always value her input!
best wishes
:)
@sogdianrock
I got no issues with her either.
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
How is this a feminist issue? Both men and women were killed. While you want to blame men for these type of shooting don't forget that the vast majority of law enforcement are men, protecting everyone.
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
@sogdianrock If it was a feminist issue why didn't the shooter just find women targets? He could of picked places where women are in the majority?
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi GunSmoke9
Well if it wasn't then he could have attacked a male only audience.
Also if it were not a feminist issue then 50% of shooters would be female.
Best wishes
:)
SW-User
@GunSmoke9 That a man went crazy and shot people... Women rarely do this. It's possible he felt a failure as a man. Machismo culture is bad for not only women but men too
I hate to be [i]that prick[/i]-- but [i]all violence[/i] is generally a feminist issue. Doesn't matter what the gender of the victims and perps might be.
SW-User
@CopperCicada You've understood the and his point 100%. Good for you imho
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi CopperCicada
I fail to see our basis for dispute.
I am sincere but feel it a shame I need to say so as surely my consistency represents that clearly.
Best wishes
:)
@sogdianrock i don't know you so i can't speak of consistency. i can speak of the consistency of this place to troll. nothing personal.
SW-User
The US is an extremely violent misogynistic society so this doesn't surprise me.
Unfortunately I don't see things changing any time soon.
SW-User
No. I mean if it was only women at that concert, then your point would have been valid.
SW-User
Men need liberating from B.S. macho stuff
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
Hi Literaturegirl
Indeed which is why I am a feminist.
best wishes
:)
Nat15 · F
No it's not. It's a human issue.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Nat14
Imho Las Vegas and countless other mass shootings by men is a feminist issue. Of course also a human issue at the macro level as it is an individual issue for victims.
The reason I say Las Vegas is a Feminist issue is the shooter was a man, many if not most victims were women and no woman has ever done what male shooters do almost routinely.
best wishes
:)
This has nothing to do with gender. Don't try to make a case to me, I've already read all your comments and I am amused by your ignorance.
@sogdianrock Yes, I say it again, I do.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi OllyOxenFree
haha ok. Here comes the attack of the 50 foot women!
Best wishes
:)
Socialclutz · 36-40, M
No you’re wrong.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Socialclutz
I am overwhelmed by your erudition.
best wishes
:)
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi Perry4444
Definition of SMH - shaking (or shake) my head (used to express disapproval, exasperation, frustration, etc.)
Well it does require a paradigm shift which is what feminism is. No more macho crap like firing automatic weapons into crowds!
best wishes
:)
SW-User
Not taking the bait, thank you.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi TabulaRasa
Sorry I am not seeking to hound you on this but I do not mean if one woman carried out a mass shooting but what if all mass shooters were women? The obverse is true. This is extreme abhorrent male behaviour but not is male.
No I seek an end to mass shootings by understanding what is going on. As NRA says guns don't kill people do but that is not true is it - men do.
I have killed with a gun btw! I am a man also.
Best wishes
:)

ps I shot a song bird with an air gun aged 13 and my regret has been lifelong. It was a long shot which I never thought would result in death. I thought it would make it fly off.
SW-User
@sogdianrock You're not hounding me. I think it's a matter of semantics. Feminism, at its core, is about standing for equal rights between men and women. This shooting, obviously, has nothing to do with rights or equality.

It's definitely a gender issue. Men commit more aggressive violent acts like this than women. They are almost exclusively serial killers, too. I think it has more to do with socialization and hard wiring than the issue of feminism. Which is to say I think we're on the same page, only using different language.

P.S. Sorry about the bird. I think we all have some incident, to some degree or another, from our youth we'd do differently if we only had the chance. Learning from our actions is the best we can do sometimes.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi TabulaRasa
I do not think it a matter of semantics. I think Feminism is a complete ideology which starts off from the point of inequality but then explores the reasons for that inequality and how to escape it. Gender differences such as the male propensity for violence - tested to by the minuscule number of women in prisons worldwide for violent crime - are central areas of concern to feminists.
Sure gender hardwiring. I like to think I redirected my own socialisation after shooting the bird.
I am glad that we are on the same page.
Best wishes
:)
Why Las Vegas specifically ? Do you know how many mass shootings there have been here ? Unlike this one, some [b]have[/b] targeted women exclusively. But you're correct that as [b]shooters[/b] we are underrepresented: only two between 1982 and 2017. 🤔
@FearfulHarmonyReborn [b]Ironic[/b] word choice. You did miss my point.
@bijouxbroussard I don't see your point.
@FearfulHarmonyReborn Trust me, I [b]know[/b] you don't. My original reply was to the OP. 🙄
getmeouttahere · 36-40, F
Oh my...... what?
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi getmeouttahere
Good question. Feminism requires a paradigm shift in the way we perceive live events and social reality. Look at the faces of the victims of Las Vegas and the shooter. Women would never do what he and countless other male shooters have done. Give me one example of a woman doing this crap?
best wishes
:)

 
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