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Do you support Universal Income?

Hawaii is considering introducing a basic income for all its citizens.

The US state’s congress voted to look into the idea as research suggests a large number of current jobs are likely to be replaced by automated technology in the coming years.

State representative Chris Lee, who introduced the legislation, said: "Our economy is changing far more rapidly than anybody's expected.”

He added that it was important "to be sure that everybody will benefit from the technological revolution that we're seeing to make sure no one's left behind."

The bill declares that all families in Hawaii are entitled to “basic financial security” – paving the way for a policy that would guarantee this.

It also tasks several government offices with analysing the state’s economy and finding “ways to ensure all families have basic financial security, including an evaluation of different forms of a full or partial universal basic income."
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MarineBob · 56-60, M
bull shit, ive been poor , homeless and if you put your mind to it you can overcome anything, so whay if you need two jobs or have to do odd jobs it builds character
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MarineBob You're really not grasping the scope of the problem. It's not a situation a little work ethic can overcome.

You being able to find odd jobs, or two jobs - requires a mostly-employed population of people with wealth to spare and a healthy economy with a functioning consumer-spending driven engine. That's the part that's looking like it will be going away.

We're not talking about manufacturing anymore. We're talking about fast food, customer service, policing, military, medical, legal, etc. Knowledge professions are also at risk. AI diagnoses cancer with higher accuracy than human doctors. Corporations are replacing their legal departments with AI. This is stuff that's already happening.

And of course, all those companies that make a rational cost-effective choice of using automation in lieu of human labor... they don't have a reason to exist when people can't afford to buy their services either. It's a cascading effect.

We can't have a nation of people be homeless and scheming to find odd jobs, that scenario just doesn't work when you universalize it. For money to change hands - it needs to be out there, being spent.