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Are Americans really so right-wing nowadays that fascists and anti-fascists are equivalent?

I'm really confused. I mean, I know that the Cold War had a major impact on American politics, shifting it to the right slowly as the fear/hatred of communism took hold in a big way throughout the 1950s and 1960s. It's just hard to imagine that someone like Obama would be considered "socialist" or "communist" when in most of the world he'd be a regular conservative. And now they seem to defend fascists, the thing their grandparents fought an entire war against and witnessed the horrors of first hand.

WTF, America?

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SW-User

Yes, it's strange
A lot of propaganda though along with a poor education

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@SW-User New Zealand. Hence my username.

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@SW-User Ah! OK!! :)
The US might see itself as the leader of the world,but no other country does! ;)
By the way, good observations, imho

SW-User

@SW-User :) Thanks.

JenniferB · 46-50, F

Left-wingers in America do not tolerate dissent and use fascist tactics against those who oppose them (Antifa).

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JenniferB · 46-50, F

@SW-User Time to go nite nite, you intellectual sloth.

JenniferB · 46-50, F

@SW-User https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2017/08/28/victory-san-francisco-leftists-celebrate-cancellation-of-protrump-patriot-prayer-rally-n2373810?utm_source=TopBreakingNewsCarousel&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=BreakingNewsCarousel

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@JenniferB Oh no, a bunch of douchebags too scared to hold their little rally - that like it or not, was directly linked to Charlottesville. We're all terribly sad about that, really.

And it had nothing to do with fears of violence either. Cops were prepared. It was the Boston spectacle that did it. All of these rallies were cancelled - 67 in all.

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

It's a political strategy, to conflate terms and ideas so badly that they lose meaning. When the people don't have a clear and coherent language to express themselves, they lose the ability to organize effectively and form educated opinions. That's why politicos spend so much time and energy to engineer and manipulate words.

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@Xuan12 US is a special case,where generalisations aren't useful imho

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@SW-User A nation of this size will naturally produce a wide array of opinions and potential affiliations, but due to the structure of power, we only have 2 major parties to represent it all, so everything gets boiled down into this or that. The parties simply can't serve everyone, not even everyone who already supports them. So they have to appeal, manipulate, conflate, etc, until they can win, even though they know full well some will be left behind.

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@Xuan12 No
Too rational an explanation
The US is in a mess, in crisis. And propaganda and manipulation are the mainstay: it all begins in US classrooms

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP

anything right of maxine walters is considered far right..
the healing will never start if liberals cant stop the name calling ..

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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP

@SW-User yeah Pauline or Corey Bernadi..

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout It's not even remotely one sided. Hell, Dan alludes to it in the opening - because conservatives consider Obama a leftist.

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP

Btw dan. The Liberal party in Oz is supposed to be right leaning too. but Malcolm Turnbull has turned into Labor lite.. the not so leftist, leftist party..

UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M

Not all of us are, just those of us who are willfully ignorant of reality.

SW-User

@UndeadPrivateer Sounds about right.

CallmeHopelessNotRomantic · 46-50, F

Oh God please don't think I'm like that.

SW-User

@CallmeHopelessNotRomantic I won't think that.

Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M

First tell me what fascists and how they are being defended

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@Jackaloftheazuresand I'm referring to those white supremacists that did that march thing. In situations like that, claiming that "many sides" are at fault when no evidence exists to prove that claim is an implicit approval of such people.

Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M

Many sides were to blame for the violence, the incident was one side but fights broke out and were caused by both the main groups. The thing is everybody takes that speech to be about that one event only when it was really a linked opportunity to call out every group that does wrong instead of having to wait for a left specific attack.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@Jackaloftheazuresand Only one side is a well organized network of white supremacy groups that wants to create a white ethno-state through violence and civil war. Fuck em with a rusty pickaxe.

Thankfully, the American people gave a proper response the following week - and last weekend.

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