How can something exist without having been created?

How can something exist without having been created? And how can something be created from nothing? The answer is that something does not necessarily need to be created. Therefore something was not created from nothing and something has always existed. The problem is that we cannot understand the concept that something does not need to be created. We cannot understand the concept that something can always exist.

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Bel6EQUJ5

something has always existed

Really? Like what? The universe itself? No, unfortunately for you, that's clearly not the case, the evidence for a finite history to our observable reality being overwhelming (ex. the ever-increasing entropy of the system as a whole pointing to the existence of a point in time within the past as being the 'moment of creation').

SW-User

Sure we can. When asked if they believe in the first mover argument a classroom of kids always rejects it- unanimously.

James25 · 61-69, M

@SW-User the greatest desire is to always exist and to never not exist. And of even greater desire is to exist forever with someone you love.

Shadyglow · F

was love ever created?
was hopefulness ever created?
was the feeling of having a purpose created?

No its part of something else. Most things are that way.

The religious obsessional ism here feels so empty and so helpless!!!

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Shadyglow · F

@James25 Maybe there was no "creation" only changes from something else. Sure feels like that NOW

James25 · 61-69, M

@Shadyglow I agree. For example our universe. Our universe was not created it came from somewhere else from something else and became what it is.

James25 · 61-69, M

@Shadyglow

was love ever created?
was hopefulness ever created?
was the feeling of having a purpose created?

I think the feeling of having a purpose is innate and is a part of everything. Other emotions like love evolved.

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SW-User

@SW-User Damn. Somebody beat me to this answer.

James25 · 61-69, M

@SW-User I think it's some kind of a mental illness

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James25 · 61-69, M

@ToddpicogramakaSatan I do not believe that anyone should experience an infinite hell. All of every infinite number of beings should be able to become a better person regardless of what they've done. If you yourself desire to be given the opportunity to be a better person regardless of what you have done then so shall it be of all living beings. The message of the one is the message of the infinite.

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