Linux mint users?
Anybody here willing to trade info/experience & offer advice about linux mint to a longtime novice?
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twiigss · M
Before I made a move to Windows 10, I formatted my C:\ drive and fully installed Linux Mint. There is a resource, Linux Mint Forums, I had to get help there because when I booted up the first time, all I got was a white blinking cursor. Prior to this install of Linux, I had been using a livecd of it to see how it is. Problem is that while the livecd has the video drivers, the full install does not. So I had to get into some menu to download the drivers, but then everything was fine.
I immediately got on the hook and got Wine. I'm a huge PC gamer, and when I went to get some help on that aspect, people turned shitty about it. Just things like, I'm running Linux, but still want Windows. No, that wasn't the case at all. I wanted to play my games. Well, after being game less for all of 2 whole entire days, I reinstalled Windows 7 Pro, and then did the free upgrade to Windows 10 Pro.
I've heard things like, well now you can get Proton for Linux, but there's still issues. I cannot begin to imagine how an operating system has been around since 1993 and has little to no game compatibility. Even with Wine, and Proton tricks, you still have problems running games.
There's a couple of problems with the Linux community:
1) People who claim to use Linux on a daily basis will preach about how great it is, how you don't get viruses so no need for antivirus software, and how it's just so much better than Windows.
When you do finally decide to install Linux, all these people up and disappear, or, now they suddenly don't want to help you. I
wonder why that is? Maybe they don't use Linux on a daily basis and are just blowing smoke?
2) People who claim to use Linux on a daily basis will say that X game works for them and they have no idea why it's not working for you.
You cannot tell me that my game of Skate Park 4, for example, is going to not work on my system, but will magically work on
yours?? Get out of here with that. If I was on a forum and got help from LinuxGuy870 and he said to install this, this, and that to get
Skate Park 4 game working, and that he has the same exact stuff, then that is a bold faced lie.
I want to move to Linux so bad, but the way the people are, it makes me not want to again. It's like, "ohhh we're in this super secret club and ohhh you should become a member" and when you do become a member, crickets.
But then I see some people say they run Windows 10 in a VM in Linux, so they can play games. So either they're lying about that as well, OR they are a part of the problem. Why wouldn't you tell someone else how you got Skate Park 4 to work somehow flawlessly on your computer, and no one else can?? Because you are lying.
Anyway sorry about the rant. It's just the Linux community would rather have a billion different flavors for an OS rather than focus on 2 or 3 OS's and try to get games to work as best as they can. Imagine, if Linux could run games as well as Windows, it really would be a competitive OS. And the community wants to keep some big secret, they say come join us, and then they all scatter when you do join, or they turn into different people.
I immediately got on the hook and got Wine. I'm a huge PC gamer, and when I went to get some help on that aspect, people turned shitty about it. Just things like, I'm running Linux, but still want Windows. No, that wasn't the case at all. I wanted to play my games. Well, after being game less for all of 2 whole entire days, I reinstalled Windows 7 Pro, and then did the free upgrade to Windows 10 Pro.
I've heard things like, well now you can get Proton for Linux, but there's still issues. I cannot begin to imagine how an operating system has been around since 1993 and has little to no game compatibility. Even with Wine, and Proton tricks, you still have problems running games.
There's a couple of problems with the Linux community:
1) People who claim to use Linux on a daily basis will preach about how great it is, how you don't get viruses so no need for antivirus software, and how it's just so much better than Windows.
When you do finally decide to install Linux, all these people up and disappear, or, now they suddenly don't want to help you. I
wonder why that is? Maybe they don't use Linux on a daily basis and are just blowing smoke?
2) People who claim to use Linux on a daily basis will say that X game works for them and they have no idea why it's not working for you.
You cannot tell me that my game of Skate Park 4, for example, is going to not work on my system, but will magically work on
yours?? Get out of here with that. If I was on a forum and got help from LinuxGuy870 and he said to install this, this, and that to get
Skate Park 4 game working, and that he has the same exact stuff, then that is a bold faced lie.
I want to move to Linux so bad, but the way the people are, it makes me not want to again. It's like, "ohhh we're in this super secret club and ohhh you should become a member" and when you do become a member, crickets.
But then I see some people say they run Windows 10 in a VM in Linux, so they can play games. So either they're lying about that as well, OR they are a part of the problem. Why wouldn't you tell someone else how you got Skate Park 4 to work somehow flawlessly on your computer, and no one else can?? Because you are lying.
Anyway sorry about the rant. It's just the Linux community would rather have a billion different flavors for an OS rather than focus on 2 or 3 OS's and try to get games to work as best as they can. Imagine, if Linux could run games as well as Windows, it really would be a competitive OS. And the community wants to keep some big secret, they say come join us, and then they all scatter when you do join, or they turn into different people.
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MethDozer · M
@twiigss the reason is games aren't designed for Linux. The games are designed for windows. That isn't an issue with Linux, it's just that developers don't like developing for it because most gamers are on windows.
It also has nothing to do with the different flavors as you put it.
Also users who get a game to work on their PC when you can't aren't lying. They just figured out how to configure WINE to run it. Getting windows programs and games to run in VIrtual box or WINE isn't always, often isn't, just plug and play and takes some configuring depending on the machine. That's just facts, not lies
It also has nothing to do with the different flavors as you put it.
Also users who get a game to work on their PC when you can't aren't lying. They just figured out how to configure WINE to run it. Getting windows programs and games to run in VIrtual box or WINE isn't always, often isn't, just plug and play and takes some configuring depending on the machine. That's just facts, not lies
twiigss · M
@MethDozer I don't know, if it was me and I got a game to work that maybe someone else couldn't, you bet that I'm going to share that information with as many people as I can versus these people who go, I don't know man, I just did it and it worked. That doesn't help anyone.
And I did recently read like the best five Linux os's to use for replacing windows but also can run games the best.
From what I see, as long as you've got proton and wine then you're pretty much set. My belief is that if Linux devs had been working from day one to have better software compatibility versus having a million different flavors, I guarantee it could run games a billion times better than it can today.
I can't upgrade my computer, I can't buy a new computer, and Microsoft just plain sucks and so I'm trying to get away from Microsoft. Most times I find myself watching YouTube videos over playing games, so if it comes down to not playing games, so be it.
I just wish there was a real good, solid operating system that could compete with Windows.
And I did recently read like the best five Linux os's to use for replacing windows but also can run games the best.
From what I see, as long as you've got proton and wine then you're pretty much set. My belief is that if Linux devs had been working from day one to have better software compatibility versus having a million different flavors, I guarantee it could run games a billion times better than it can today.
I can't upgrade my computer, I can't buy a new computer, and Microsoft just plain sucks and so I'm trying to get away from Microsoft. Most times I find myself watching YouTube videos over playing games, so if it comes down to not playing games, so be it.
I just wish there was a real good, solid operating system that could compete with Windows.
MethDozer · M
@twiigss the thing about the distros and the variety is they are meant to optimize to a certain uses. It's a strength that that kernel is open source and nurtures that. Gaming is really the only thing Linux really struggles with.
I know what you're saying and don't totally disagree with you about the community in your topic. It's kind of due to the fact Linux users tend to be computer nerds that it is easy for. Along with the fact that some of those types of questions get asked over and over and over again and it gets exhausting. The linux community can be extraordinarily helpful at most of the time but there's still plenty of instances where the "oh Jesus this again?" Effect comes in and peeps take an attitude of not being there to hold people's hand and they need to try a little. I'm not saying it's a great attitude but that's where it comes from. Really IMHO your best bet is to partition and dual boot if you're big thing is gaming and use windows for gaming and Linux for everything else.
I know what you're saying and don't totally disagree with you about the community in your topic. It's kind of due to the fact Linux users tend to be computer nerds that it is easy for. Along with the fact that some of those types of questions get asked over and over and over again and it gets exhausting. The linux community can be extraordinarily helpful at most of the time but there's still plenty of instances where the "oh Jesus this again?" Effect comes in and peeps take an attitude of not being there to hold people's hand and they need to try a little. I'm not saying it's a great attitude but that's where it comes from. Really IMHO your best bet is to partition and dual boot if you're big thing is gaming and use windows for gaming and Linux for everything else.
twiigss · M
@MethDozer I would dual boot but I'm stuck with Windows 10, or Linux. And if steam ended support on Windows 7, they'll probably do it with 10 also.
The thing I really dislike about the Linux community is how they say things like, you'll see the benefits of Linux and how you need to leave Microsoft behind. And when you do get on board with Linux and need help, it's like you said, attitudes or crickets.
If I was helping someone, the last thing I would do is get all bent out of shape over someone asking for help with an os they know nothing about.
The thing I really dislike about the Linux community is how they say things like, you'll see the benefits of Linux and how you need to leave Microsoft behind. And when you do get on board with Linux and need help, it's like you said, attitudes or crickets.
If I was helping someone, the last thing I would do is get all bent out of shape over someone asking for help with an os they know nothing about.