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Apples A16 Bionic chips now MADE in Arizona by TSMC

Apple started moving its reliance on Taiwanese manufacturing of its chips on to US soil a few years ago. It seems that quality and quantity of those chips is now starting to reach parity with TSMC in Taiwan. TSMC is doing the manufacturing in Arizona.
TSMC is the go to company for mobile phone silicon. Samsung can’t match TSMC.

Diversification is key. Most tech companies are also moving their production facilities or have moved production facilities away from China to other parts of the world. Many are setting up in India.
Northwest · M
The TSMC plant in Arizona will not go online until mid 2025. And that would be for phase 1. The more advanced phase will not go online until 2028.

There has been an ongoing tiff between TSMC and the US Plant. The TSMC management is pissed because the US people want to take off on weekends and holidays, and work somewhat close to 8 hour days.

TSMC does not understand why the US folks think this is OK, as opposed to wanting to be at their job 24/7.
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Northwest · M
@jshm2
That's just shareholder massaging talk!

The chips are still mostly made in Taiwan, they just get rebranded in Arizona.

If you mean the packaging phase, then yes. But it's really about a culture issue. TSMC for both political and common sense reasons, decided to diversify in the US, but the Chairman made it really clear what he thinks of US personnel (lazy, not focused, not willing to die on the job for the glory of the company, etc). Which is really what's delaying things: TSMC created schedules based on TSMC work ethics/standards, not US work ethics/standards.

When I first stated in the tech space, it was an extension to my college experience: worked, took naps while the code compiled, ate, showered, etc. all at the company. This is no longer the case in the US, for a good reason, and there are good reasons.

I understand efficiency better now, and back in the day, no one understood what it means as it was all being done for the first time.

When I visited locations in Japan, South Korea, etc. at some point, people simply hung out. I was jet lagged, so my sleep scheduled was messed up, but the "locals" were killing time, because no one dared leave, no matter what tie it was, before their supervisor left, and that created a messed up chain reaction.
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@Northwest I know, I regret the political nonsense aspect of it ... to me this is yet another reason the US should've never been divided into states (which in turn enabled the electoral college) with any actual authority / powers

And of course I agree just about any critical function should be spread out geographically, but I assume any Russian nuke would target every known industrial hub too

I don't know what the Asian fabs do but it has always been fascinating to watch the video from inside one particular hospital in Japan, which was built with base isolation during the 2011 earthquake ... and it really wasn't that big of a deal, inside the hospital ... makes me wonder how much that would add to the cost of an average home if it were part of the building code on the US west coast especially
Northwest · M
@BlueGreenGrey I was thinking more in terms of natural disasters, not nukes. Personally I think that the first nuke we, or they, fire in anger, means our world is gone.

Home proofing on the West Coast (I'm in Western Washington), requires a fork lift effort, on a city per city basis.

If we mass produce, and mass educated and change codes, it may not add a lot of cost on an individual home basis, but unless the entire neighborhood is "integrated" into the same "system", my well proofed house, can still slide, because your house, that happens to be below mine on a steep hill (or above me), is not. Or the hill itself for that matter.
my well proofed house, can still slide

This is true ... and I don't know how anyone in western Washington in particular, whether buying an existing home or vacant land on which to construct a new home, can actually ascertain where or not that lot sits atop the next Oso ... that if you're on anything but a flat valley floor, how can you be assured your particular lot is never going to slide, and if this can be determined, how expensive is the testing

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