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I guess... it's sorta still going on. became friends in the mid to late 90s. it's a 'srota' cuz he kinda can't live on his own anymore after medical issues. it's a weird place to be cuz it's almost like he's trying to pretend and remember who he is rather than just be himself. which sounds just slightly less weird than it is. so about 30 some years. probably closer to 30 with his change