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Back in 1969, they allegedly sent a flush-riveted metal space ship into space containing a bunch of men, a shitte-load of video cameras, a Lunar Entry Module, plus flood lights on pedestals to prove they actually got there, but the amazing thing that always stood out in my mind was... who set up the video cameras on the moon which captured Neil Armstrong climbing down the ladder and making that very first footprint on the moon by a human being?

Maybe the camera crew who set up the video cameras were actually the first men on the moon, not Neil Armstrong?

But wait... there's more! Then everyone climbed back into the LEM and took off from the moon and somehow made it back to earth after having traversed the harshest conditions in space along their way which went flawlessly because after all, they were Americans and Americans do everything right except for what really matters, yet managed to land on planet earth completely intact and even did such a great job, that everything that's also found on earth was included in a space museum but was labelled 'moon rock'.... including the LEM itself!

Yet for some strange reason, a man has never set foot on the moon since! 😂
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@swirlie SERIOUSLY!?
@LordShadowfire
Yes! Seriously! Who was the guy who set up the video cameras outside the LEM before Neil Armstrong was filmed walking down the steps onto the moon?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@swirlie Have you noticed that there were no stars in the black background? They were too hard to fake since their positions are completely different viewed from the moon.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@swirlie I cannot with this nonsense.
@LordShadowfire
What nonsense are you referring to?
@Diotrephes
But what I want to know is, who was the guy holding the camera filming Neil Armstrong as he walked down the ladder of the LEM to the moon's surface?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@swirlie There was nobody holding the camera. The camera was shot out of the lander when they landed. I don't quite understand how it worked, but it landed in just the right position to film them.

That's the nonsense I'm talking about. Conspiracy nonsense about something that obviously happened.
@LordShadowfire
I researched this. The guy who stayed inside the LEM while Neil Armstrong did that first 'step', was allegedly the guy who was filming the whole thing... but filming from INSIDE the LEM, not filming from the outside. Yet any footage we see of Neil taking that first step was filmed from the perspective of the camera looking straight at the LEM from the outside with Neil coming out the door.

The truth is, back in 1969, there was no such thing as wireless cameras, which means the video camera used for all this would have to be hooked up to a long cable which ran from the camera to the camera's processor, but then transmitted back to earth 'live' as it was allegedly happening. But that portable live-streaming technology had not been invented yet in 1969. It worked for transmitting TV images while on the ground, but the equipment required to make that happen wouldn't have fit inside the LEM. That's why those images could only have been filmed while on the ground on planet earth.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@swirlie Oh, ffs. Here. Argue with these:

https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-moon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/moon-landing/

https://www.popsci.com/proof-moon-landing-not-fake/
@LordShadowfire
Why are you showing me these links?
IanAll · M
@swirlie do you think they faked it
@IanAll
Of course they faked it!
IanAll · M
@swirlie just to say they beat the Russians
@IanAll
The US didn't beat the Russians at anything if neither landed on the moon!
IanAll · M
@swirlie I don’t know it’s a pretty big lie to tell I’ve alway assumed they did land on the moon
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@IanAll
That's because the US government told everyone that they did. But the technology wasn't available at the time (1969) to conduct remote video transmission as was done during the lunar walk. That stuff could only have been done on earth in a studio environment.

Keep in mind that the 8-track cassette player was the most advanced piece of electronics on the market at the time, according to research! And now, the US government is going to pretend that they were able to send 'live' video from the moon to earth as those cameras were being operated by astronauts and not experienced film crews? Give me a break!
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@swirlie https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-moon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/moon-landing/

https://www.popsci.com/proof-moon-landing-not-fake/
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IanAll · M
@swirlie you’ve got my attention I’m going have a look into it, I remember seeing a program saying they faked it a few years back and it did make some compelling arguments.
@IanAll
I'm not saying that the space ship never took off from earth, I'm just saying that a flush-riveted tin can never landed on the moon... and then took off from the moon and somehow made it back to earth while making it look way too easy.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@swirlie https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-moon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/moon-landing/

https://www.popsci.com/proof-moon-landing-not-fake/
IanAll · M
@swirlie a lot of people think it would involve too many people lying to get away with it
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@IanAll Especially since with a powerful enough telescope and a high-powered laser, you can find the reflectors we left there. Physical evidence. And if humans didn't leave it there, who did?
IanAll · M
@LordShadowfire I’ve always thought they landed on the moon but I have heard some good arguments against it