Concerning the OceanGate Titanic submarine and the future...

This is a short 1:41 clip about the missing OceanGate Titanic.

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It's sad that some of these types of ventures are sponsored by unthought out venture entrepreneurs. Yet perhaps more foresight will be given now to the maritime standards now.

This is just one of many pieces of technology that could be of help now. And not the only one at that...

Clip is 2:12 minutes.

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I'm all for such ventures. Yet please uphold to today's standards.

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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

This vessel is classified as an experimental vehicle.. Every passenger has to sign all sorts waivers basically saying they are signing their lives away to get on board. No way would I do it.. However you wont find me queuing up to climb Everest, jump out of a perfectly good aircraft or run with the bulls either..😷

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman there's a huge difference between a tourist vessel, a simple boat, and a experimental vessel. Same like wise with land vehicles.

With the later experimental vehicles are not allowed to do certain things, like be used for tourism.

What is advertised is basically tourism on that submarine. Therefore it should be following maritime laws! Release wavers do not matter, if they are following the laws.

This is concerning the very licensing of the vessel. Not the actual tourist themselves.

You can't license mount everest! You can ANY type of vehicle!

Believe it or not even Elon Musks space vehicles are USA license to operate as tourist vehicles.

Also why those that go on them are not necessarily considered astronauts. They're considered tourists unless they are qualified to actually operate something that is.

In the case of the OceanGate titan, the owner is considered an operator, while the rest are considered tourists. They are not supposed to operate anything on that vessel. Hence the licensing of the vehicle according to maritime laws.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@DeWayfarer While I am not an expert on maritime (or space) law, you make an excellent point in comparing Musk, Bevos and Virgin Galactic with the Titan..I suspect the legal situation would be quite similar and the law may not yet be written to cover them properly...😷

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman maritime laws are normally stricter than land vehicle laws.

The owner of the vessel that caught fire while the (9?) tourists on board were sleeping got handed a noose to use on himself. The fire was huge news. The law suit never really made the press much.

Not allowed to operate any such vessel again. And with heavy fines, and with civil suits by relatives in progress.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@DeWayfarer Since the CEO of the sub business is on board, he may well not face a penalty. By all logic the vessel is either trash on the ocean floor (and there will be some bits float up in time) or bobbing on the surface with the passengers sealed inside and needing help to get out before the air runs out. Lets hope for the latter.😷

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@whowasthatmaskedman totally agree with the passengers hopefully being safe.

Yet they already have the equipment ready to bring it up from the bottom there. It's the US Navy's equipment.